Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose Coyotes Arena Talk: Land Auction Date Set - 6/27

[Dead Coyote]

Still all conjecture. Junior wasn’t the only one with access so nobody can say for sure who tweeted what unless you’re going to do real tracing and that involves court orders.

Doesn’t matter who did what. The damage is there.

I didn't say anything that was conjecture. AM Jr had access too, and was frequently using, the twitter account. There was reportedly also only one other social media manager for the team, so I'm not going to blame her for everything that has been posted there. Doesn't really matter either way, this isn't about what they posted, it's about nepotism and the Meruelo attitude.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

There’s a difference between cutting costs and not paying for services rendered. I also highly doubt that AM just suddenly starting doing this when he took control of the Coyotes.

For a PR firm that was hired it was likely down to what was in their contract and what was promised. If said company promised X but only delivered half of X they are not entitled to full amount of the contract. If an amount was paid and was settled, in or out of court, then it points to that contractor didn't live up to what was promised and is mad.

For the hotels, I am not sure. Without more information on it, it just a lot of conclusions drawn. Not sure if the team has negotiated rates with some hotels and the hotel manager may not have known, the manager thinking the amount is higher than it actually is then running to media...I don't know.

Without details, its easy to assume the worst, but since there hasn't been anything in court, I am assuming it all has been taken care of and everyone is square. Until someone delivers a summons to AM, its not a concern for me.

Enough with the what I don't knows...I do know AM needs a better money manager to stay on top of these financial items before anyone has a chance to cry to the press about them. I am also sure that he is not the only billionaire that has had to be reminded of the bill, I have not googled and devised a list, just saying I am sure you can find more than AM.

 

[TheLegend]

I didn't say anything that was conjecture. AM Jr had access too, and was frequently using, the twitter account. There was reportedly also only one other social media manager for the team, so I'm not going to blame her for everything that has been posted there. Doesn't really matter either way, this isn't about what they posted, it's about nepotism and the Meruelo attitude.

Right….. but which tweets are his and which aren’t?? You have people out there right now thinking he does all of them or assuming the ones they don’t like are his.

 

[Mosby]

I don't understand defending AM. There are people from all corners of the hockey world saying, "This guy is a scumbag."

No other team operates this way.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I don't understand defending AM. There are people from all corners of the hockey world saying, "This guy is a scumbag."

No other team operates this way.

All I'm gonna say is that there is a niche of groupies who kiss the rings of people who pretend at competence because of their money but who exemplify mediocrity, narcissism, sociopathy, and grift.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Right….. but which tweets are his and which aren’t?? You have people out there right now thinking he does all of them or assuming the ones they don’t like are his.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this. I don't care about which tweets are his or aren't. Neither should anyone else. What I do care about is that he was given that power, did something with it, and that whole endeavor by the Coyotes has been pathetic and incompetent.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

I don't understand defending AM. There are people from all corners of the hockey world saying, "This guy is a scumbag."

No other team operates this way.

It’s because he’s all we have. The alternative is just accepting probably never getting a team back…

 

[Mosby]

Do you want a team back if this guy is at the top?

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Do you want a team back if this guy is at the top?

Hell yes, I’ve enjoyed the crap we’ve had to date, more than not having a team to watch live.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Hell yes, I’ve enjoyed the crap we’ve had to date, more than not having a team to watch live.

Word.

I would love nothing more than to still be here in my 80s, having you Az-based and non-Az-based Utah fans razz me for never having had a home playoff game in the 15 years the Coyotes 2.0 have been in the league.

 

[SniperHF]

Hell yes, I’ve enjoyed the crap we’ve had to date, more than not having a team to watch live.

TBH if he gets to the point where he can afford to build an arena, actually get it built, AND afford to repay the NHL, he would have answered basically all of these doubts by that point. So yes I think most people would accept it.

I just don't think he'll get that far. But if he does I'm there.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Do you want a team back if this guy is at the top?

No.

I come from a military family. You accept your deployments as your duty and fight no matter who is in the chain of command until your enlistment is up. But if you're offered the choice of reupping for another combat tour with the same incompetent commander who is likely to get you maimed or killed or a discharge, you take the latter. Only masochists get excited for the alternative.

Remember - Meruelo comes with Junior, the only person on the planet who legitimately believes Shane Doan has nothing to offer Arizona hockey.

 

[TheLegend]

TBH if he gets to the point where he can afford to build an arena, actually get it built, AND afford to repay the NHL, he would have answered basically all of these doubts by that point. So yes I think most people would accept it.

I just don't think he'll get that far. But if he does I'm there.

No talk…..

No tweeting….

Just get it done…..

And I’m including the NHL in this…. much of this was their own doing as well.

If you really think about it…. you’ll figure it out.

 

[Mosby]

No.

I come from a military family. You accept your deployments as your duty and fight no matter who is in the chain of command until your enlistment is up. But if you're offered the choice of reupping for another combat tour with the same incompetent commander who is likely to get you maimed or killed or a discharge, you take the latter. Only masochists get excited for the alternative.

Remember - Meruelo comes with Junior, the only person on the planet who legitimately believes Shane Doan has nothing to offer Arizona hockey.

President of Hockey Operations roles are reserved for hockey whizzes like Gary Drummond!

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Do you want a team back if this guy is at the top?

Yes. I want a team back. Period.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

TBH if he gets to the point where he can afford to build an arena, actually get it built, AND afford to repay the NHL, he would have answered basically all of these doubts by that point. So yes I think most people would accept it.

I just don't think he'll get that far. But if he does I'm there.

100000000 percent this.

The Meruelo's are garbage.

For now.

For them to not be garbage anymore, they need to succeed in buying the land, building the arena, and bringing the team back through reactivation and expansion.

To do this, they need to do basically everything Petey said in his open letter. Rehabilitation. Collaboration. Compassion.

I have no faith whatsoever they can and will. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

No.

I come from a military family. You accept your deployments as your duty and fight no matter who is in the chain of command until your enlistment is up. But if you're offered the choice of reupping for another combat tour with the same incompetent commander who is likely to get you maimed or killed or a discharge, you take the latter. Only masochists get excited for the alternative.

Remember - Meruelo comes with Junior, the only person on the planet who legitimately believes Shane Doan has nothing to offer Arizona hockey.

“We all gotta die sometime Red”

Barnes in Platoon, in case it wasn’t obvious.

No talk…..

No tweeting….

Just get it done…..

And I’m including the NHL in this…. much of this was their own doing as well.

If you really think about it…. you’ll figure it out.

I think I was one of the first to call Meruelo out, but yeah… the NHL pretty much set him up for failure. Of course he compounded that set up.

 

[rt]

Do you want a team back if this guy is at the top?

YES!

 

[Dirty Old Man]

I have no faith whatsoever they can and will. I hope I am wrong.

Just wanted to say hey while it was still your day

 

[TheLegend]

I think I was one of the first to call Meruelo out, but yeah… the NHL pretty much set him up for failure. Of course he compounded that set up.

Yep.

 

[Jakey53]

Are all the owners of AZ sports franchises bad?
How is the owner of the Cardinals or Diamondbacks?

Also i think the NHL is hoping that all the stuff thats coming out now, will make AM cash in the money and just leave.

Speaking of the Cardinals and Bidwell is another story by itself. Fined, sued, guilty on I believe multiple charges. But he paid his hotel bills.
I don't follow baseball but Kendrick's they say is no saint, but that could all be hearsay I don't know.

 

[Jakey53]

Yep. Peters had a LOT to say about AM Jr. and how much involvement he actually had and how he refused to listen to the experience and reason offered by the tenured professionals and caused their departure - Doan, Nairn. Total noob that just had to do things his way. Also mentions how he "managed with intimidation and fear." Sounds like lots of employees left unhappy under his watch. It's insane to hear the levels of involvement he had with his background (or lack thereof) in business in general, nevermind professional sports.

But don't expect @Jakey53 to believe it. He'll just call Peters a nobody or something lol.

I'm not trying to defend anyone. Peters is a bitter ex employee. I don't know how anyone can make a final decision on anyone unless you get the facts from all parties. Looking from the outside in it looks like the Coyote's made some mistakes, but those are assumptions and you believe what you believe. We have no idea what extent AM Jr. involvement in the Coyote's were.

It would be nice if the Coyotes hadn’t relocated to Utah. Between Ishbia and Meruelo, only one of the two has sold our team out of state.

Defending Isbia?

 

[Jakey53]

Do you have a source that isn't AM himself, saying that Jr and XG had a big hand in hiring GMBA, Jakey? Because multiple people who have worked with the team have said otherwise. Curious to know your breaking source on this.

I would imagine AM had final say, but it has been stated that in the GMBA interview with XG and Jr, said that the way BA talked makes you want to go through a wall for him. Not sure who else was in the room at the time, maybe the janitor or lot attendant or a maintenance guy, or maybe a PR guy. I believe multiple people were in the room.

For a PR firm that was hired it was likely down to what was in their contract and what was promised. If said company promised X but only delivered half of X they are not entitled to full amount of the contract. If an amount was paid and was settled, in or out of court, then it points to that contractor didn't live up to what was promised and is mad.

For the hotels, I am not sure. Without more information on it, it just a lot of conclusions drawn. Not sure if the team has negotiated rates with some hotels and the hotel manager may not have known, the manager thinking the amount is higher than it actually is then running to media...I don't know.

Without details, its easy to assume the worst, but since there hasn't been anything in court, I am assuming it all has been taken care of and everyone is square. Until someone delivers a summons to AM, its not a concern for me.

Enough with the what I don't knows...I do know AM needs a better money manager to stay on top of these financial items before anyone has a chance to cry to the press about them. I am also sure that he is not the only billionaire that has had to be reminded of the bill, I have not googled and devised a list, just saying I am sure you can find more than AM.

Good post.

 

[Jakey53]

I'm not sure how much clearer I can make this. I don't care about which tweets are his or aren't. Neither should anyone else. What I do care about is that he was given that power, did something with it, and that whole endeavor by the Coyotes has been pathetic and incompetent.

What power is that? You don't know what his job description is/was.

 

[Desert Ice 11]

For AM he may not be perfect but I feel that anything to go wrong with this franchise will be amplified 100x just because that is what has been going on the past 25 years. The last ownership groups have been a lot worse and have made things worse. I know there has been praise for Barroway but he is the one with felony strangulation charges. What's worse, felony strangulation or trying to kid your kid involved in the family business?

I am not defending AM but trying to look at things objectively rather than take something a news article reported with no other context. For example referencing "people" around the league without even listing a title. The league equipment staff?