Got what I wanted. You get a top 10 pick you get the most talented forward you can get your hands on and you move on.
Got what I wanted. You get a top 10 pick you get the most talented forward you can get your hands on and you move on.
Only 1 d gone...knew Murray was smart
Looking forward to Leaf/Sabres games.I like the pick. Hopefully he turns out to be the better brother.
I have NO idea how good this kid is. I've been watching all the D men because I thought for sure that's the position we would take.
I see you're shifting your goal posts.
Weeks of no defenseman is worth 8..... to only one defenseman gone means Murray was smart.
Juolevi was worth 8OA. He was gone at 5. How do you reconcile that after weeks of preaching that no defender was worth #8?
Goal post remains. Proof is there was only 1 d gone. Murray knows what's up. Skill forwaRd in top 10.
That so many d were available disproves everyone's hard on for need over bpa. Who was going to be a forward. And was. And is.
AZ GM thought that it was due to him recovering from an injury.fall that low I wouldn't have guessed...whats wrong with him?
I see you're shifting your goal posts.
Weeks of no defenseman is worth 8..... to only one defenseman gone means Murray was smart.
Juolevi was worth 8OA. He was gone at 5. How do you reconcile that after weeks of preaching that no defender was worth #8?
Uchecatov was the last pick of the second round. Lazarev as you mentioned was a third rounder. I wouldn't advocate putting players that weren't good enough to be a first round pick in the AHL at 18. Dome was a 1st rounder yes but he was rushed to the NHL so I would argue that playing 30 games in the NHL at 18 hurt him more than playing 36 game in the AHL at 18. Golubovsky it didn't work out, fine. He was drafted 22 years ago so that's not the best example as to why Nylander shouldn't be in the AHL. Grosek never put it together "with his skill set?!" You mean his skill set that got him drafted 145th overall in the 6th round?!
His skillset that had him traded for a 1st round draft pick.
It hasn't proven to be some sort of slam dunk for development. Most of the guys who have gone that way have flopped. Call me conservative, but I'd rather see him dominate against players his age (OHL) or in his home country (SEL) than get thrown to the wolves in Rochester.
Not saying you're wrong but your evidence is weak. I'd say you take it on a case-by-case basis, with no general rules, especially since the leagues are getting younger all the time. I'd have no reservations starting him in Roch if he looks good enough in camp.
OHL and CHL RotY is nice to have
His skillset that had him traded for a 1st round draft pick.
It hasn't proven to be some sort of slam dunk for development. Most of the guys who have gone that way have flopped. Call me conservative, but I'd rather see him dominate against players his age (OHL) or in his home country (SEL) than get thrown to the wolves in Rochester.
He's got some amazing skills with the puck on his stick. His speed does take advantage of space that may not be there at the next level, but he's got the burst to get away from his check or go from the wall to the net. It'll be interesting to see who he develops chemistry with going forward.
He he was drafted in the 6th round. At 18 years old he was developed in the AHL and was eventually traded for JP Dumont and Doug Gilmour. Thats what you're going to use as your argument for poor development? I'd be fine with a 6th round pick developing into a trade piece that lands you Dumont and Gilmour. You wouldn't?!
I've given plenty of examples where the AHL at 18 worked.
Your comebacks are well the 60th overall pick and 79th overall pick played in AHL at 18 and they busted. Well guess what? Players taken at those picks bust a lot, regardless of where they are placed for development.
And to say you dislike the AHL as a path of development because it isn't a "slam dunk" is asinine. There is no such thing as a slam dunk for development. Each kid needs to be evaluated on a case by case basis.
So far you've provided yourself no leg to stand on in your argument.
Weak? A couple of guys have had okay 18-year old seasons and a bunch have turned into ****, but that's weak. Fine, fine.
If they put him in Rochester, I'd like the Amerks to have a couple of guys who can both play and regulate, perhaps even fearsomely. Protection.