Prospect Info: Alex Nylander (2016, 8th) – '17-18: Rochester #92 (AHL)

[Afino]

Seems happy to be here and we're happy to have him.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Very disappointed.

Hoping to be proven wrong.

 

[Disengage]

He could. Typically 18-year olds in the AHL is a ****ing terrible idea.

It's a great idea. He's good enough to play in the A and will learn more than spending another season in the O.

 

[JThorne]

It's a great idea. He's good enough to play in the A and will learn more than spending another season in the O.

He could play in the Swedish Men's league.

 

[1972]

I'm surprised everyone was still on the Chychrun train..

 

[Chainshot]

It's a great idea. He's good enough to play in the A and will learn more than spending another season in the O.

No, it's a ****ing terrible idea most of the time.

 

[JimboA]

delete

 

[couture23]

I'm surprised everyone was still on the Chychrun train..

Yeah, taking him at 8 would have been a huge mistake.

 

[kingofQueens]

No, it's a ****ing terrible idea most of the time.

I hope you don't think I'm slighting your opinion when I ask this, because I honestly don't know the answer. But are there any recent examples of 18 year olds going to the AHL and it turning out to be a ****ing terrible idea?

 

[1972]

Yeah, taking him at 8 would have been a huge mistake.

We all know he was going outside the top 10, some just refused to believe it.

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

Yeah, taking him at 8 would have been a huge mistake.

Agreed, if he keeps falling though I'd have interest trying to move back into the first

 

[1972]

Agreed, if he keeps falling though I'd have interest trying to move back into the first

He isn't falling, this is where he was projected to go.

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

He isn't falling, this is where he was projected to go.

Depends who you ask. And by keep falling I of course mean fall later into the first round regardless of whether you consider where we are now falling

 

[kingofQueens]

No, it's a ****ing terrible idea most of the time.

Just went through the complete list of 18 year olds to play in the AHL.

The Good:
David Pasternak
William Nylander
Kevin Fiala
Zemgus Girgensons
Hampus Lindholm
Vine Prospal
Slava Voynov

The Bad
Nikita Filatov

To be determined
Oliver Kylington

So please explain why its a bad idea? Im curious.

EDIT: here's the list http://www.quanthockey.com/ahl/en/player-age/18-year-old-ahl-players.html

 

[Capslock17]

Best guy I thought the Sabres had a realistic shot at selecting.

Very happy.

 

[Willy Stylez]

Very disappointed.

Hoping to be proven wrong.

You will be proven wrong in the future.

 

[Chainshot]

Just went through the complete list of 18 year olds to play in the AHL.

The Good:
David Pasternak
William Nylander
Kevin Fiala
Zemgus Girgensons
Hampus Lindholm
Vinny Prospal

The Bad
Nikita Filatov

So please explain why its a bad idea? Im curious.

EDIT: here's the list http://www.quanthockey.com/ahl/en/player-age/18-year-old-ahl-players.html

Girgensons had several concussions and there are questions about his offensive development. As for the rest of the "made it" list, not one of them made it through 40-games played as a rookie. Lindholm is the poster boy for it, but there are plenty of others in that very list who flamed right out.

Dome (1st rounder) was much anticipated and flopped terribly. Victor Uchevatov failed terribly (2nd rounder), Yan Golubovsky (first rounder) struggled to make the jump and didn't develop as expected. Michal Grosek never put it together despite his toolset. Evgeny Lazarev (3rd rounder) wasn't much at the AHL level and didn't turn out. Bergfors was an okay NHLer.

 

[Matt Ress]

Finally got PPQB.

 

[sabremike]

I am just glad we drafted the son of a former Whaler!!! #LLTW

 

[1TuchAnd1NoTuch]

I am just glad we drafted the son of a former Whaler!!! #LLTW

Priorities

 

[kingofQueens]

Girgensons had several concussions and there are questions about his offensive development. As for the rest of the "made it" list, not one of them made it through 40-games played as a rookie. Lindholm is the poster boy for it, but there are plenty of others in that very list who flamed right out.

Dome (1st rounder) was much anticipated and flopped terribly. Victor Uchevatov failed terribly (2nd rounder), Yan Golubovsky (first rounder) struggled to make the jump and didn't develop as expected. Michal Grosek never put it together despite his toolset. Evgeny Lazarev (3rd rounder) wasn't much at the AHL level and didn't turn out. Bergfors was an okay NHLer.

Uchecatov was the last pick of the second round. Lazarev as you mentioned was a third rounder. I wouldn't advocate putting players that weren't good enough to be a first round pick in the AHL at 18. Dome was a 1st rounder yes but he was rushed to the NHL so I would argue that playing 30 games in the NHL at 18 hurt him more than playing 36 game in the AHL at 18. Golubovsky it didn't work out, fine. He was drafted 22 years ago so that's not the best example as to why Nylander shouldn't be in the AHL. Grosek never put it together "with his skill set?!" You mean his skill set that got him drafted 145th overall in the 6th round?!

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Is the Swedish men's league significantly less physical than the AHL?

 

[TalkingProuder]

Nylander will be a beast. Wanted Sergachev but at least we didn't do anything horrible.

 

[sabremike]

Priorities

It's forward thinking: with the Whaler connection if he doesn't pan out he can become our coach #WhalerCoachingTree.

 

[Jim Bob]

I like the pick. Hopefully he turns out to be the better brother.