NHL Adjusted standings for points LOST - Updated 11/18/2022
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Looking at the metric you can see the seperation forming and the 8 playoff teams in the East are taking shape.
Carolina Hurricanes - GP 31 - Points Lost 15
Toronto Maple Leafs - GP 31 - Points Lost 18
Florida Panthers - GP 32 - Points Lost 18
New York Rangers - GP 33 - Points lost 20
Washington Capitals - GP 34 - Points lost 20
Tampa Bay Lightning - GP 34 - Points Lost 21
Pittsburgh Penguins - GP 31 - Points lost 21
Boston Bruins - GP 28 - Points Lost 22
Columbus Blue Jackets - GP 30 - Points lost 29
NY Islanders - GP 28 - Points lost 30
Philadelphia Flyers - GP 32 - Points lost 32
Detroit Red Wings - GP 33 - Points Lost 33
New Jersey Devils - GP 33 - Points lost 35
Ottawa Senators - GP 29 - Points Lost 38
Buffalo Sabres - GP 33 -Points Lost 40
Smurfs de Poutineville - GP 34 - Points Lost 50
The struggles of the Flyers and Islanders, and of course the haplessness of the Habs, are immensely helpful for the Bruins. All 3 have rosters that are very capable at least on paper of battling for playoff contention, and more able to sustain a challenge throughout a long season than young or rebuilding teams like the Red Wings and Blue Jackets. Philly and the Fish Sticks aren't completely out of it yet and they're probably the two that the Bruins will most need to watch, but still, having them behind the eight ball is a big plus.
smithformeragent
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Yup.
Smack dab in the middle.
A rung well below the true contenders.
Clearly above the also-rans and the riff-raff.
Scoreboard don’t lie in this case.
Smack dab in the middle.
A rung well below the true contenders.
Clearly above the also-rans and the riff-raff.
Scoreboard don’t lie in this case.
NYI still bear watching. They are an experienced
group that has had success last two years. How many more times do they play Boston?
Nobody in the Atlantic to worry about - Bruins simply need to avoid a long losing streak.
This schedule is insane
This schedule is insane
I don't think the Bruins have played their best hockey yet this season. Something has been off all year. If they start to play better consistently and as a cohesive group (find a team identity?), I don't know if that gets them into the top tier, but they are better than they've done so far.
Dennis Bonvie
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I thought McAvoy had his best game of the season yesterday. He can be better than he has been so far this season. That would help.
Pasta needs to find his game, get some confidence back. That would help too.
Same for Taylor Hall.
Craig Smith looks to be healthy again.
Grizz and Rielly could contribute more offensively.
Tuukka?
Yep, I think best hockey is still to come, without even making a move.
I’m with Tocchet on this one, I don’t see the Bruins missing.Anson Carter thinks the Bruins are the most likely team currently in the Top 8 to miss the playoffs
I am looking at the points lost metric and I see the Bruins in range of both Tampa Bay and Toronto.
Carolina Hurricanes - GP 33 - Points Lost 16
Toronto Maple Leafs - GP 35 - Points Lost 21
Florida Panthers - GP 36 - Points Lost 19
New York Rangers - GP 37 - Points lost 24
Washington Capitals - GP 37 - Points lost 25
Tampa Bay Lightning - GP 38 - Points Lost 23
Pittsburgh Penguins - GP 35 - Points lost 23
Boston Bruins - GP 33 - Points Lost 24
Columbus Blue Jackets - GP 34 - Points lost 35
NY Islanders - GP 28 - Points lost 30
Philadelphia Flyers - GP 35 - Points lost 37
Detroit Red Wings - GP 37 - Points Lost 37
New Jersey Devils - GP 36 - Points lost 39
Ottawa Senators - GP 29 - Points Lost 38
Buffalo Sabres - GP 35 -Points Lost 44
Smurfs de Poutineville - GP 35 - Points Lost 52
Anson Carter thinks the Bruins are the most likely team currently in the Top 8 to miss the playoffs
I am looking at the points lost metric and I see the Bruins in range of both Tampa Bay and Toronto.
Carolina Hurricanes - GP 33 - Points Lost 16
Toronto Maple Leafs - GP 35 - Points Lost 21
Florida Panthers - GP 36 - Points Lost 19
New York Rangers - GP 37 - Points lost 24
Washington Capitals - GP 37 - Points lost 25
Tampa Bay Lightning - GP 38 - Points Lost 23
Pittsburgh Penguins - GP 35 - Points lost 23
Boston Bruins - GP 33 - Points Lost 24
Columbus Blue Jackets - GP 34 - Points lost 35
NY Islanders - GP 28 - Points lost 30
Philadelphia Flyers - GP 35 - Points lost 37
Detroit Red Wings - GP 37 - Points Lost 37
New Jersey Devils - GP 36 - Points lost 39
Ottawa Senators - GP 29 - Points Lost 38
Buffalo Sabres - GP 35 -Points Lost 44
Smurfs de Poutineville - GP 35 - Points Lost 52
The Pens and Bolts will make it. I reckon it's the Caps who could well be in trouble. They're old and slow and only have so-so goaltending. They've still got the offensive firepower, but I do think it's possible that their form could at some point just fall off a cliff if they lose another half-step as the season grind really starts to bite. Wouldn't bet against them, but will be interesting to see how they go.
Islanders remain the team to watch as the one that could worry the Bs. Lots of games in hand, and they were just starting to finally get going when they hit this long 11-12 day Covid break. Think the next couple of weeks will tell us whether they're got a run for a playoff spot in them or not.
Tuukka wants a Cup and has accepted the ultimate hometown discount.
Fasten your seatbelts
Question for the NYI is how Chara and Green
will hold up under that schedule. They are
like 81 years old between them...lol.
Question for Washington is how much has Backstrom's hip surgery impacted his play. He was invisible against Boston. Lavy had Kuznetsov centering Ovie. That's a killer for Washington if he doesn't regain his form.
Wouldn't mind Boston being a wild card in the Metro.
DKH
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Bruins 104 point pace
I’ll take them today in series against the 1967 Cup champs
I’ll take them today in series against the 1967 Cup champs
CharasLazyWrister
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Was it Anson Carter who said “I’m not sure Boston makes it” on the pregame show last night?
Obviously it’s still early in the season, but especially given the games in hand the Bruins have on every team that’s “close” in the standings, who does he see catching them? The Red Wings? Even at this stage of the season, I’m confident saying that something has likely gone terribly wrong if that is to happen.
Obviously it’s still early in the season, but especially given the games in hand the Bruins have on every team that’s “close” in the standings, who does he see catching them? The Red Wings? Even at this stage of the season, I’m confident saying that something has likely gone terribly wrong if that is to happen.
We still have 3 1/2 months left in the regular season (April 29th) and that is almost certain to be extended.
The B's WILL make the playoffs
The B's WILL make the playoffs
He thinks it will be the Islanders.
I think NYI could make a run but the Bruins won't be the team that will be caught.
CharasLazyWrister
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oh okay, I didn’t hear that.
Haven’t seen much of the islanders this year, but has there really been much there that suggests they could make a run? Or is it just trusting in Barry Trotz making it happen?
Trotz is a big part of it, but I think as well you look at their roster and it's little changed from the one that made the conference finals and took the Bolts to 7. I know on paper it's not exactly full of top-end talent and past playoff success is no guarantee of future performance (hello Habs!), but I think there are also extenuating circumstances that can otherwise explain their slow start - playing no home games for over a month, then entering a new barn for which they initially had no familiarity, a few injuries. If they can get past all that and get their act together and fully commit again to Trotz' system then I think they've got a good run in them. But then again they are in a pretty sizable hole and it's not easy to play the Trotz way night after night and get by more on grind than outright ability. So I think the odds are against them, but they can't be discounted just yet.
CharasLazyWrister
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Also (and I apologize for being too lazy to actually confirm it), are Trotz’s team’s known for slow starts at all? If anything, I feel like they generally come running out of the gates?
Like you said, it could happen. And it’s really easy to forget that we still have over half the season left. But it’s hard not to be confident in the Bruins right now.
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What's crazy is that you look at the standings and see Pittsburgh and Boston in the wildcard spots - and how thrilled the top of the division teams must be to see that.
With The Pens already on a tear and getting Malkin back and The Bruins finding their game, lighting the lamp and adding Rask - they're probably the two scariest wildcard teams we've ever seen.
Pittsburgh on a 110 point pace. Bruins at a 104 point pace.
The Pens won't be a wildcard team for long and think The Bruins will get themselves into the conversation once they make up some more games - but as of today that's pretty ridiculous.
With The Pens already on a tear and getting Malkin back and The Bruins finding their game, lighting the lamp and adding Rask - they're probably the two scariest wildcard teams we've ever seen.
Pittsburgh on a 110 point pace. Bruins at a 104 point pace.
The Pens won't be a wildcard team for long and think The Bruins will get themselves into the conversation once they make up some more games - but as of today that's pretty ridiculous.
RustyBruins72
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I don't know. Islanders have 54 games left. If 98 points (based on the end of the 2019 season) is what is needed for the 8th seed, they need 72 points which equates to 36 wins. They'd have to win at a .667 clip the rest of the way. Of course the loser point factors in, but I think that's pretty tough.
Apologies if I got the math wrong.
They stumbled badly when the new arena opened but are now at .500 - 5-5-3 - They have 28 home games left so they can still make a run.
That said I don't think the Bruins will be the team sitting in the 8 spot - I think that will be Washington.
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Dennis Bonvie
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The Islanders are the only team that could possibly make it into the top 8 I think
but for the Islanders to get to 100 points
“Which probably won’t even make it”
They need 72 points in 53 games which means they have to play at a 111 point pace the rest of the season
considering how compact there schedule is there 10 games behind some teams…it seems near impossible
they will be completely gassed after a while
the Top 8 teams in the East in my mind is 95% locked in just a mattter of seeding
considering every team in the East playoffs is on pace for between 106-120 points
seeding means nothing this year you are playing a loaded team in round 1 no matter what
but for the Islanders to get to 100 points
“Which probably won’t even make it”
They need 72 points in 53 games which means they have to play at a 111 point pace the rest of the season
considering how compact there schedule is there 10 games behind some teams…it seems near impossible
they will be completely gassed after a while
the Top 8 teams in the East in my mind is 95% locked in just a mattter of seeding
considering every team in the East playoffs is on pace for between 106-120 points
seeding means nothing this year you are playing a loaded team in round 1 no matter what
DKH
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