The PPs were 5 for Sweden and 4 for NAT with a PS going to NAT as well, so I don't think it was anything blatant. But haha the tinfoil hat of me thought of NAT winning the whole thing not being ideal when I saw the McDavid call at the end. OTOH, to be fair, he did use both arms and he did win the puck because of it.
PGT: 9/21 North America vs Sweden - North America wins 4-3 in OT but Sweden advances
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The PPs were 5 for Sweden and 4 for NAT with a PS going to NAT as well, so I don't think it was anything blatant. But haha the tinfoil hat of me thought of NAT winning the whole thing not being ideal when I saw the McDavid call at the end. OTOH, to be fair, he did use both arms and he did win the puck because of it.
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They were pretty brutal. The calls on Sweden were all legitimate penalties but at least two of the penalties on Team NA were complete nonsense.
1 - The interference penalty on Ghost for checking Hornqvist 1 nanosecond after he played the puck.
2 - The holding penalty on McDavid for beating Stralman to a loose puck then getting slammed down to the ice.
Not to mention several non-calls on Sweden on obvious infractions, such as Mattias Eckholm sticking his leg out to trip Gaudreau.
helax
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Personally I was pretty skeptical about Team NA before the tournament and believed that their match against Finland could be attributed more to a shocker from Finland and their young defense.
However, after the last couple of games I will be delighted if they make the semifinals. Beating a tremendous and experienced squad at full steem like Sweden is quite an achievement. If they pass, they fully deserve it.
What will happen? I don't think Finland will give an inch to Russia. There is a strong rivalry and our players really will want to give a satisfaction to supporters and continue building some foundations for the future.
However, I believe that this russian team is a better than our current team, actually have performed according to their potential (specially in the second period against NA), and is crunch time for them, so Russia will win.
I just hope we don't play trap, and try to play like for instance in the last period against the swedes
However, after the last couple of games I will be delighted if they make the semifinals. Beating a tremendous and experienced squad at full steem like Sweden is quite an achievement. If they pass, they fully deserve it.
What will happen? I don't think Finland will give an inch to Russia. There is a strong rivalry and our players really will want to give a satisfaction to supporters and continue building some foundations for the future.
However, I believe that this russian team is a better than our current team, actually have performed according to their potential (specially in the second period against NA), and is crunch time for them, so Russia will win.
I just hope we don't play trap, and try to play like for instance in the last period against the swedes
jj cale
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Finland will probably play hard against Russia even when the game doesn't mean much to them but who knows for sure, maybe they are down in the dumps mentally after the last 2 losses?
Think Russia will win it and move on.
Think Russia will win it and move on.
I think it means a little bit more than something to them, is Russia man!
Agreed, Russia will win...
Revisionist bull...
Krutov hit the posts like 3 times, hero was Jukka Tammi in goal. We held on for dear life, klap-klap-klap hockey meant 5vs5 was like a powerplay to USSR. First time we ever beat the Soviet Union in an official tournament.
jj cale
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LOL.
interested to see what Finland has to give this game, I know they had higher hopes but it just was not their time. The coming years are going to be good for them though.
jj cale
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Golly, sure great to see this sort of dispassionate expert analysis - clearly with no axe to grind (lol) - by such a seasoned poster on here!
NickLidstrom
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OEL was also awful in the Olympics. Until he makes up for it in future tournaments it's fair to criticize him for it
That is always the justification for assigning Canadian refs to work games that Canadian teams are playing in - that Canadians are allegedly "better" than IIHF refs. Who is appointed to judge which refs are better than others? The NHL? Its just a tribal way of saying that we are better than you.
Even when they are trying to be fair, refs are human, and the crowds make some calls. The most significant affect is when refs swallow their whistles to avoid calling a seemingly obvious infraction because they don't want to antagonize the crowd. It works in Canada's favor, and that will become more evident when we get into the playoff round.
However, I did notice that Team NA clearly had better players, better talent than Sweden, and played with more passion. They clearly deserved to win, in my opinion. That is why these hybrid teams have been so successful. They can cherry pick talent that the national teams don't have access to.
bert
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bert
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This. Was watching with my brother and we just couldnt understand it. Did they explain to the players the situation?
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If Finland scores the first goal, they're definitely playing trap. Finland is very successful playing the trap. When I look back, almost every time Finland has had a huge upset it was due to scoring the first goal and trapping for the win. The problem is they've never had the first goal (or were leading) at any point in this tournament (prelims excluded).
I hope Finland splits up Barkov/Laine/Aho. Laine/Aho are not playing up to their potential, and Barkov is their best forward. I see Barkov's potential being wasted playing with 2 kids who aren't playing to their capabilities.
I agree. But I hope they don't play very conservative. From a finnish point of view, it was great to watch the game against sweden, because they were forced to play something different, and they actually dominated the game. There was some momentum going
But, yeah...even the team NA (faster team in the tournament) could't match Russia, so Märjamaki won't change much...I think he is kind of pressured to prove that he is the right man for the job. Finnish team always overachieve, not underachieve....if we lost tonight it will look like the second and fingers will start pointing in one direction.
I think Laine had a great game the other day against sweden...but both of them still need to develop as players, hence people cannot expect from them the same level of performance and results that you would get from Selanne and Koivu at their prime.
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