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Prospect Info: #83OA - Hurricanes Select RHD Anttoni Honka
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NotOpie
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Kaako Kappo
Kaako Kappo
Anttoni has matured a lot. The junior stuff has disappeared from his game and weirdly he also plays full 2 minutes on Jyp PP, which can't be too common. Looking like a good puck moving D.
Expect him to score 100 points for the Canes in 2022 season.
Expect him to score 100 points for the Canes in 2022 season.
Discipline Daddy
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No. I shall expect 120 points for the Canes in the 2022 season.
tarheelhockey
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With Hamilton gone and TDA a wild card, there's certainly a chance the Canes could have a big opening for a puck moving RHD in the next year or two.
bleedgreen
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The thing that made Dougie special was the shot. Tony doesn’t really do that and I’m not sure Honka does either. We had enough skill pre Dougie to snap the puck around but pk’s charged us everywhere knowing we couldn’t execute the goal even if they pulled themselves out of position. Dougie threatening shot slowed the charge and led to us breaking them down better.
Just having puck moving guys back there is likely to not be enough. We need shooters. We don’t have any one time threats or pure shot threats in general aside maybe from Svech on top of the left circle.
Just having puck moving guys back there is likely to not be enough. We need shooters. We don’t have any one time threats or pure shot threats in general aside maybe from Svech on top of the left circle.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis is Elite
Dougie had nothing on Corvo
the halleJOKEL
strong as brickwall
fewer guilty pleas for assault charges, i suppose
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
I agree, Dougie's shot stalled the more aggressive PKs against us. However, I'd argue we still had pretty poor puck movement from the backend, especially on the PP. Also, I wouldn't discount Necas's one-timer.
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis is Elite
Is it a true Necas 1 timer if he doesn’t fall while shooting though?
spockBokk
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I kinda wonder why they haven’t yet signed Honka. With Puistola, I can see why they may take a wait and see approach. With Honka, he has done nothing but improve. The fact that they’ve signed Tieksola, Heimosalmi and Koivunen before Honka is a little surprising to me.
Granted, they are pretty close to the contract limit at 48, I believe.
Granted, they are pretty close to the contract limit at 48, I believe.
Boom Boom Apathy
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I think they love Honka, but aren’t burning a contract slot to sign him.
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It's still somewhat suspicious, mind you.
NotOpie
"Puck don't lie"
Magic 8-Ball says: "Answer unclear, ask again later.
My guess is each year there are one or two very specific things that they want him to work on....likely Rod requirements. That and the contract situation probably is what it's about.
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Well obviously if they recognize a clear deficiency in his game, it's better they patch it up in Finland before bringing him over and activating his ELC.
They may only have a few spots for him in the contract pool, but if they don't show him some love, they may alienate him going forward. Seems to me it's now or never for a contract, otherwise he may just take the contract sent to him and have it returned to sender.
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Well if that should happen that's alright, mama's boys who need to have their careers catered for them usually don't amount to much in the end.
Joe McGrath
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That’s a funny way to spell Anton.
WreckingCrew
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Will never forget his fake-corner-dump-slapshot goal!!
Vagrant
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there's another factor to consider when looking at honka's contract status and why it might be a better situation for both player and club to continue the present arrangement. honka's brother, orange, spent parts of 5 seasons playing for the texas stars. 200+ games over 5 years. there's not a lot of fun to be had playing in that league for that long. it would stand to reason that calls home were probably lots of anger and confusion about how his situation was being handled each time he found himself sent down and how helpless he was to decide where he needed to play next to help his game. he very likely made less and played in inferior facilities than he would have back home in liiga, not to mention the prestige difference. julius had defeated the ahl several times over but like our very own jake bean, whatever the numbers said didn't speak to the stars. the issue there is that they also refused to trade him and made him something of a hostage in that situation.
fast forward to today and our interest in honka, he's probably not too jazzed about the idea of signing up for the kind of experience that his brother had of riding the bus for the better part of 4 full seasons. julius probably has notebooks full of the lies that dallas told him to get him to sign before his game had fully matured. players are better these days at realizing their leverage and what it means exactly to sign that first deal. anttoni has a strong relationship with JYP and they've done a great job developing him. both by the numbers as well as by reports from our friends abroad, he's been better each successive season. that's the important aspect to remember. he's growing his game in a place where he feels comfortable, where he doesn't have to worry about being loaned anywhere he doesn't want to play because of organizational preferences. he knows quite well that he's not an opening night top 6 option for this team and what that means for his immediate future. the only honka he's going to hear is the bus to chicago.
he's about to turn 21 and once you turn 22, entry level deals drop to 2 years of control instead of 3. unless he goes berserk and puts up 60 points in liiga, it's probably a safe bet to assume he will play both this season and next before trying his hand in north america. perhaps even with some loan assurances should he not make the club at that time. as long as he continues to get better, carolina should be largely ambivalent to this scenario. they have the mutual expectation that when he's ready he will let us know and when we're ready for him, we'll let him know. part of me wonders how vocal he was about that reticence and if it impacted his draft stock in any way because by talent he certainly went lower than expected.
fast forward to today and our interest in honka, he's probably not too jazzed about the idea of signing up for the kind of experience that his brother had of riding the bus for the better part of 4 full seasons. julius probably has notebooks full of the lies that dallas told him to get him to sign before his game had fully matured. players are better these days at realizing their leverage and what it means exactly to sign that first deal. anttoni has a strong relationship with JYP and they've done a great job developing him. both by the numbers as well as by reports from our friends abroad, he's been better each successive season. that's the important aspect to remember. he's growing his game in a place where he feels comfortable, where he doesn't have to worry about being loaned anywhere he doesn't want to play because of organizational preferences. he knows quite well that he's not an opening night top 6 option for this team and what that means for his immediate future. the only honka he's going to hear is the bus to chicago.
he's about to turn 21 and once you turn 22, entry level deals drop to 2 years of control instead of 3. unless he goes berserk and puts up 60 points in liiga, it's probably a safe bet to assume he will play both this season and next before trying his hand in north america. perhaps even with some loan assurances should he not make the club at that time. as long as he continues to get better, carolina should be largely ambivalent to this scenario. they have the mutual expectation that when he's ready he will let us know and when we're ready for him, we'll let him know. part of me wonders how vocal he was about that reticence and if it impacted his draft stock in any way because by talent he certainly went lower than expected.
tarheelhockey
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AhosDatsyukian
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Still pissed we never got a good video of that. Unless we did and I missed it.
WreckingCrew
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AhosDatsyukian
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hadn't seen that last angle before ever seeing it actually go in the net, so thanks. but still not a great angle.
