80% of Draisaitl's starts are in the O-Zone, right way to develop a player?
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Could you elaborate why?
CanadienShark
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MacT and Lowe are the problem, they rushed in prospects and now all the vets that were leaders are gone.
It blows because I really want to see Draisaitl be a stud. Edmonton is doing their best to ruin his career. The NHL better not let them get McDavid or Eichel.
A poor man Kopitar maybe? I don't see him have the speed or skill to match Kopitar no matter what the management is. He has the potential to be a perfect #2 center at about 50-60 pts per season IMO. He should have stayed in juniors this year though.
We are talking about young Edmonton players in all of which have underachieved this year.
Leon is just a rookie.
Edmonton needs more of and the right horses in order to succeed.
Leon isn't being used correctly but also doesn't belong in the league however I don't subscribe to the stunted growth theory.
You may not be ready for the NHL at 18 or 19 but your either good or not.
Players not yet ready who are thrown into the furnace don't hurt their development instead they mess with the team's success.
Leon is just a rookie.
Edmonton needs more of and the right horses in order to succeed.
Leon isn't being used correctly but also doesn't belong in the league however I don't subscribe to the stunted growth theory.
You may not be ready for the NHL at 18 or 19 but your either good or not.
Players not yet ready who are thrown into the furnace don't hurt their development instead they mess with the team's success.
skating is one of the easiest things to improve on if you're willing to put in the time/effort.. i.e: Justin Braun
I'm sure Sharks fans can attest to how weak Braun's skating was up until a couple of seasons ago.
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Yeah but McDavid has already said that he won't do that to any team and that it's wrong.
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MacT gambled on Drai being a #2C in the NHL right out of junior. He was dead wrong but too stubborn to send him down so the coaches had no choice but to shelter the heck out of him. Typical oilers devlopment. Now that the tank is on he will be sent down it looks like before he burns a year to becoming UFA.
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its insane how high those numbers are for a lot of the players... it shows he wants offence from some players and defence from others. It's as close to football O and D as hockey can even get
The oilerz are starting to remind me alot of the sens from the 90s. I really dont know if its development that ruined yak, but he looks terrible. Draisitl is way too young to be considered a bust but his nhl start is no where near encouraging
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Daigle=yakupov
Bonk=draisitl
Daigle=yakupov
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It's not a bad formula for developing a player.
The only problem is the NHL isn't a developmental league.
The only problem is the NHL isn't a developmental league.
No. Game 10 burns a year off of the ELC, but not off of years of service for UFA purposes.
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You don't think he has the speed to match Kopitar?
Kopitar is good at many things, speed not being one of them. I know Draisaitl has skating issues, but he's got huge room for improvement in that regard, unlike Kopitar. And yeah that old "everyone is a 50-60 point player" mindset. I hate it. Be bold people, or you can never predict a superstar. Draisaitl will likely end up in that range, but he certainly has Kopitar potential. When Kopitar was just drafted, how many thought he'd become the player he is today? His potential is FAR greater than you're giving him credit for. I remember Busthansen a few years ago, now he's Godhansen.
Holy ****, didn't understand there were fourth liners having 10% OZS but almost 40% OZ finishes, is that normal or does Edmonton have an exceptional 4th line?
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Some of its due to randomness. It's sort of the 'nowhere to go but up' idea. If 1/3 of all shifts end are due to luck (I don't know if anybody has run these numbers) and those shifts end at 50/50 then you would improve on 10% with no skill involved. That said, EDM does have a good 4th line (I really like Gordon) - unfortunately they are often the teams most effective players.
I've actually wondered the same about Draisatil and it does seem like overkill. A large part of the game is transition and those starts limits that development. It also signals a complete lack of confidence in him, ergo he shouldn't be in the NHL.
That's a wonderful explanation and I'm enlightened now.
Seriously, why doesn't it matter?
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I never said that. If one starts in the offensive zone it's less responsibility. If you start in the D zone it's more responsibility. Less responsibility for any rookie is good. Rookies need to play and let loose.
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skating is one of the easiest things to improve on if you're willing to put in the time/effort.. i.e: Justin Braun
I'm sure Sharks fans can attest to how weak Braun's skating was up until a couple of seasons ago.
This is only somewhat true. If you are never an above average skater for your age group then you will never be an above average skater in the NHL. Skating typically never goes from a weakness to a strength between junior and NHL. But it can get up to a level that won't hold a player back in the NHL.
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