TOML
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He has to get those starts because his skating isn't there. The question is, will it ever be there?
80% of Draisaitl's starts are in the O-Zone, right way to develop a player?
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JS91
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He shouldn't even be in the NHL at the moment. They should have just let him develop in juniors for one more year, but it's Edmonton so this was pretty much expected. The fact that Draisaitl, who is supposed to become a solid two way forward, is starting 80% of his faceoffs in the o-zone is just mind boggling though. They probably back that decision up by saying that they want to put better, more experienced and reliable players out there on d-zone faceoffs, but they are already so bad that refusing to put Draisaitl out there on d-zone faceoffs only results in Draisaitl's development suffering even more.
Oh, Edmonton.
Oh, Edmonton.
Love
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Whoever the Oilers draft (likely McDavid, Eichel, or Hanifin) should simply refuse to play for them. They are honestly ruining the careers of young players left right and centre. If the player they draft refuses to play for them, I wouldnt even hold it against that player. That franchise just doesnt get it.
AtNightWeFly
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The right way to develop him would be to get him the hell outta Edmonton...and for him to stuff Yak in his backpack and sneak him outta there as well.
Tripod
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Could I ask someone to post Couturier's Rookie season as a comparison.
Also, what site do you get the info from. I see extraskater is down.
Also, what site do you get the info from. I see extraskater is down.
McDNicks17
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The real story here is Boyd Gordon.
He's the reason the Oilers are able to shelter Draisaitl so much.
He's the reason the Oilers are able to shelter Draisaitl so much.
You call it sheltering...I call it purposely throwing away scoring zone time on a person who couldn't more clearly not belong on this level if he had no feet in an effort to finish last...
six of one...half a dozen of another.
six of one...half a dozen of another.
Couts has always had very low O-zone starts since the beginning of his career, hes been Philly's go to shutdown center (that being said Giroux never has high o-zone starts aswell).
2014-2015: 38.4%
13-14: 42.6%
12-13: 32.1%
11-12: 40.3 %
Gordon's been Edmonton's unsung hero, gotta feel bad for the guy.. close to 90% d-zone starts, yikes.
McDNicks17
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If Pouliot were healthy, Draisaitl would have the 9th most offensive zone starts on the team.
He obviously shouldn't be in the NHL, but that has nothing to do with how he's being utilized.
They are doing to him what they've done to their other young prospects before him. Destroying or slowing his development. This kid should not be in the NHL right now and he will be passed by many other kids in his draft year next year. The Oilers need to get the arrogant management personnel out of office and get some people in place who know what they're doing. The Oilers management may have been great players, but they are terrible management personnel. I feel sorry for the fans because there is no end in sight as long as those people are still running the show.
WarriorofTime
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It's almost like the Oilers have no clue what they're doing. But Kevin Lowe has 6 Stanley Cup rings so that's obviously not the case.
Tripod
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Edmonton doesn't develop players....they just sign them to $42 MM contracts and cross their fingers.
They definitely would. He is 19th lowest in DZS by players who have over 20 games. The other noteworthy names on that list are mainly 4th liners like Lapierre and Brodziak.
It's not a bad technique. It's the wrong player. Heavy OZS and low QoC is the way to go. Draisaitl just isn't ready for that
You ask me, that is the completely wrong approach. The Oilers are like George Costanza in that one episode, all his decisions are bad so do the exact opposite of what he would do, right? The right approach is to put him between your two best defensive bottom-six grinding wingers, preferably veterans. So, you put him with Hendricks, Puliot, or Perron and have that line do the yeoman's work, the kid learns by watching the work habits of veteran players who weren't top draft picks and made their careers the hard way. Like the Canucks the other night had Horvat between Burrows and Dorsett, playing defensive minutes, scrapping it out, guess what, that line opened the scoring of course. That's how you do it!
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aemoreira1981
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82.5 percent of Boyd Gordon's starts are in the D-zone, and over 70 percent of his shifts end there. http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stat...DM&c=0+1+3+5+63+67+57+58+59+60+61+62+64+65+66
BTW, for players with at least 20 games played, Couturier is 30th among D-zone starts, while Boyd Gordon is 5th. For 30+ games played, Couturier is 13th (Gordon hasn't played at least 30 games, but Manny Malhotra leads the league in defensive zone starts for 30+ games.
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WarriorofTime
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People who feel the need to start Oilers threads, here's a dandy checklist to answer you questions:
The Oilers as a whole suck at most, if not all things. This massive suckage creates huge problems within the organization. Does that answer your thread?
The Oilers as a whole suck at most, if not all things. This massive suckage creates huge problems within the organization. Does that answer your thread?
