Prospect Info: 6th Overall Pick Moritz Seider, Defence, DEL

[1878rgw]

Yesterday the DEL announced the 13th November for the start of the new season, if everything goes right.

We should have made them take Rasmussen with Seider. I want him playing.

I'm sure they would do it, but if he should be able to leave the team at any time during the season, one of the limited license for a foreign player is wasted.
In the DEL you are allowed to have 11 players from foreign countries under contract, but only 9 are allowed to play in a game.

Awesome news. Does Mannheim stream their games?

Every DEL game will be streamed by MagentaSport(€120,00), but you need an adress in Germany which must be proved by your ID card.

 

[MBH]

It reached 1K posts, so it was closed and the conversation moved here.

Not sure why HF has this policy - but i kind of hate it.
These long threads are great archives of player development.

 

[Henkka]

Not sure why HF has this policy - but i kind of hate it.
These long threads are great archives of player development.

Same here. Always like to lift old discussions up.

 

[Henkka]

Yesterday the DEL announced the 13th November for the start of the new season, if everything goes right.

There's also Champions League games, starting in October 7th for Mannheim.

 

[1878rgw]

I know and teams like Munich are already in full practice on the ice, but at the moment it's only a schedule. How will the Swedes take part of CHL if there is still a travel warning?

 

[Bure80]

I'd honestly like to see more of our prospects go over there. Mannheim has a good development group of former NHLers like Marco Sturm and veterans like Marcel Goc. It gets our top prospects playing pro hockey and puts them in a good program where we can monitor their development more easily than if they were spread out across several euro leagues.

Sturm never played for Mannheim. Hecht and Seidenberg played for Mannheim.

 

[Frk It]

If the NHL starts on time on 12/1, does it even make since to send him over for ~2 weeks?

 

[FabricDetails]

If the NHL starts on time on 12/1, does it even make since to send him over for ~2 weeks?

Implies to me that it was a 75% chance he goes to GR and 25% chance he plays for the Wings.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Sturm never played for Mannheim. Hecht and Seidenberg played for Mannheim.

You are correct! I thought it was Sturm but it's Jochen Hecht. Still, another one of the better German former NHLers. Marco Sturm was coach of the national team, and Hecht was his assistant.

 

[MBH]

Unless the AHL isn't happening, I don't see much reason for Seider to go to the DEL - other than to get some reps.

 

[newfy]

Unless the AHL isn't happening, I don't see much reason for Seider to go to the DEL - other than to get some reps.

Well ya but thats the whole reason, hes 19 he needs reps

 

[Konnan511]

Unless the AHL isn't happening, I don't see much reason for Seider to go to the DEL - other than to get some reps.

Wait...so if the AHL is happening, then it's more the reason to go to the DEL? This kid needs to play and get as many reps in as possible.

 

[MBH]

Well ya but thats the whole reason, hes 19 he needs reps

Right, I was under the assumption their season was starting when it normal does.
Now that it's Nov. 1 or whatever - when do our camps open? Dec 1?

 

[newfy]

Right, I was under the assumption their season was starting when it normal does.
Now that it's Nov. 1 or whatever - when do our camps open? Dec 1?

I think the NHL is hoping to start december 1st, not sure if thats camp or the season though. But it makes sense to get him over there playing and training. With how messed up the States are, it probably hard for him to train and hes better off to just get over there, self isolate and then have more freedom to get to work and less worry about covid.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

If the NHL starts on time on 12/1, does it even make since to send him over for ~2 weeks?

This is about finding a place for him to train, skate and get some decent reps. Not necessarily game reps.

I don't really anticipate him playing a bunch of games over there, he would actually be due for camp when they start playing games.

If we don't get the virus under control he has a place to play as the season gets delayed.

 

[Henkka]

If the NHL starts on time on 12/1, does it even make since to send him over for ~2 weeks?

Isn't Seider already there and will be for 4 months, not just for 2 weeks ?

 

[Frk It]

Isn't Seider already there and will be for 4 months, not just for 2 weeks ?

Yeah, good call.... DUH

 

[raymond23]

Isn't Seider already there and will be for 4 months, not just for 2 weeks ?

Ya, I’m pretty sure he’s been working out and skating at the Mannheim facility since he’s been back in Germany. Believe there’s an interview with Bob Kaser out there that states this.

Edit: found it.

 

[Pavels Dog]

 

[Dotter]

Looks like his shot has improved.

 

[Henkka]

Key Seider dates:

- April 1st
Last games of SEL regular season. Somehow there's 3 off-weeks before these, maybe for possible corona delays. If they use these off-weeks for games, regular season could end at least 2 weeks earlier.

- April 12th
NHL trade deadline. Red Wings have 12 games left after this day.

- April 24th
Red Wings have 7 games left after this day. If they want to burn a year from Seider's ELC, this is the final chance to join the team. 7 games is the ELC burning limit on this shortened season (instead of normal 10).

- May 8th
NHL regular season will end.

- May 21st
2021 World Hockey Championships are supposed to start. Seider should join Germany for sure.

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It seems to be totally open will he join Red Wings at current season or not.

Swedish playoffs should last 6 weeks (2 weeks per round). So on worst case, regular season ending late and Seider playing at final series, he won't be released until mid of May.

But, if those playoff will start like, 2 weeks earlier and Seider won't play at final series, he could come to NHL at some point of mid-April.

It can be anything on one month scale.

 

[golffuul]

I pretty much figured that unless his team lost in the first round, that we weren't going to have him at all, this season. Which is fine by me, as long as he is playing meaningful hockey games and gets playoff experience.

 

[Nut Upstrom]

Thanks for spelling it out, awaiting his arrival to Detroit was going to be a highlight to the season. Seeming now as if we won't see him at all. Hope he brings Rogle the championship.

Would love seeing him at the Worlds. Die Mannschaft all the way baby!

Oops, meant to quote Henkka from above.

 

[jkutswings]

I particularly like the one behind the opponent's net. He was basically stopped with no momentum, but still knocked the guy off his feet like it was nothing.

The kid has more strength (and awareness of how to use it effectively) than any prospect I've seen in a long time.

 

[Gniwder]

I particularly like the one behind the opponent's net. He was basically stopped with no momentum, but still knocked the guy off his feet like it was nothing.

The kid has more strength (and awareness of how to use it effectively) than any prospect I've seen in a long time.

He leverages extremely well for a kid his height. Note how he gets low against shorter players and does the NHL approved should to shoulder/chest hit every time. He will definitely make games more exciting to watch.