Prospect Info: #43OA - C/LW Janne Kuokkanen - Karpat, FIN (traded to NJ)

[Unsustainable]

Apocalyptica is the best Finn band

 

[vorbis]

carolina humppacanes imo

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Apocalyptica is the best Finn band

apocalyptica is not bad

nightwish is also p good

 

[Unsustainable]

I had tickets a few years ago to Apocalyptica but couldn't make it cause I was sick.

 

[Roboturner913]

Omnium Gatherum destroys these bands, FWIW

 

[Lempo]

Omnium Gatherum destroys these bands, FWIW

At least it's worth enough to hint you at checking out the "Elegy" album by Amorphis.

 

[Roboturner913]

I think I have it but I haven't listened to it yet. I liked Skyforger and Eclipse from them.

 

[Finnpin]

 

[Lempo]

I think I have it but I haven't listened to it yet. I liked Skyforger and Eclipse from them.

Ah. I haven't even listened those fully, except for the few select songs that have got a lot of radio-play and that I find too pop-rocky compared to the earlier material to get interested about.

'Too radio-friendly metal' may well be a #finnishproblem.

 

[ijuka]

My favorite Finnish song has for at least 15 years been "Kaamos" by Apocalyptica and I don't see it changing anytime soon.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Taken by London in the import draft



please
please
please

 

[GoldiFox]

Taken by London in the import draft



please
please
please

I like Karpat and our entire Finnish contingent we have built, but Kuokkanen to the London Knights is extremely appealing. That is the spot for maximum exposure and hype. With Marner, Dvovak, and possibly Tkachuk leaving he would have a huge role on the defending champs.

Not to mention it is a very nice nod to Kuokkanen. It has to feel good when the best team in a league (and maybe the only team who could possibly persuade him to come over) says "I want you".

 

[Novacane]

I like the thought of it as a way to get him used to the NA game but not in terms of competition.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Asked Ryan Kennedy about Kuokkanen, and got this answer:

 

[GoldiFox]

Asked Ryan Kennedy about Kuokkanen, and got this answer:

London knows what they are doing and usually gets their guy. A lot of work goes into those CHL Import picks, I don't think they would have used a selection on him if they didn't think there was a strong chance he would come over.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

 

[Lempo]

How that works? He has 3 year contract to Kärpät amd I understand has played in the pro League. What needs to happen that he could go to CHL, is it even possible? Does he ruin his AHL eligibility, is he stuck to CHL until 20 if he doesn't make it straight to NHL in some point?

 

[DaveG]

Wouldn't affect his AHL eligibility as he was drafted in the NHL out of the Finnish league and no CHL team held his rights at the time. Similar situation to Victor Rask a few years back.

 

[NotOpie]

Given the increased quality of competition in Liiga play, I'm not 100% convinced that playing for London would be the best move for his development. Sure smaller vs. bigger rinks and all, but he's playing against men is a pretty physical Finnish league. I'm not saying it is a better choice, but this feels like either one he makes is a win. My understanding is that he'd also have a pretty important role/spot on Karpat.

 

[bleedgreen]

Better off in Finland, I'd leave him.

 

[Lempo]

How's the transfer thingy for someone who is under a contract? There are the usual blanket coverage NHL clauses in the FEL, but it's gonna be a different thing with CHL, right? I don't think Liiga is especially happy about their guys ditching to play in just any league, especially a junior one.

Could there even be a chance that Kärpät rushed to sign him just prior the CHL Draft for a reason?

 

[ReLyT]

How's the transfer thingy for someone who is under a contract? There are the usual blanket coverage NHL clauses in the FEL, but it's gonna be a different thing with CHL, right? I don't think Liiga is especially happy about their guys ditching to play in just any league, especially a junior one.

Could there even be a chance that Kärpät rushed to sign him just prior the CHL Draft for a reason?

He can be "loaned" to London, in the same way Juolevi was loaned to the Knights while under contract.

 

[Lempo]

He can be "loaned" to London, in the same way Juolevi was loaned to the Knights while under contract.

Ah. I see Knights were thanking Jokerit management for cooperation to make that happen:
http://www.londonknights.com/article/juolevi-and-mattinen-commit-to-knights

Jokerit was at the time a KHL team, though, and they didn't have room for Juolevi in the roster. Kärpät on the other hand may be less keen to give away a 54-points-in-50-games A-junior... who's 2 GPG in Liiga already. They'll be missing Aho and maybe Puljujärvi already for the next season.

 

[ijuka]

Ah. I see Knights were thanking Jokerit management for cooperation to make that happen:
http://www.londonknights.com/article/juolevi-and-mattinen-commit-to-knights

Jokerit was at the time a KHL team, though, and they didn't have room for Juolevi in the roster. Kärpät on the other hand may be less keen to give away a 54-points-in-50-games A-junior... who's 2 GPG in Liiga already. They'll be missing Aho and maybe Puljujärvi already for the next season.

Kärpät's roster situation is looking grim for 2016-2017. It's possible Kuokkanen would even get to be a first liner there.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Kärpät's roster situation is looking grim for 2016-2017. It's possible Kuokkanen would even get to be a first liner there.

The dummies need to stop producing elite young players and their roster wouldn't get raided like this.