GDT: #32 - 12/15/17 | kings @ RANGERS | 7:00 - MSG, NHLN

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Fataldogg

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Point is I don't see him telling at his team mates when they **** up.

Lundqvist had every right to be upset when he sees a teammate give up on a play.

Effort wasn't there on the play.

And the softie argument against Lundqvist doesn't work this year. Guy is actually having a decent year and has arguably been their best player since November. He is pulling his weight on a poor defensive team.
 

Vinny DeAngelo

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Lundqvist had every right to be upset when he sees a teammate give up on a play.

Effort wasn't there on the play.

And the softie argument against Lundqvist doesn't work this year. Guy is actually having a decent year and has arguably been their best player since November. He is pulling his weight on a poor defensive team.
One of the worst coached teams in the league... They only give up shots in high danger areas...
 

Tob

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Shattenkirk is on for another goal against and it's all Staal, Kampfer and Holden's fault

Got it.

That's clearly not what I said. That's a criticism of Shattenkirk's defensive ability and inability to execute top 4 defensive roles. With less anchors on the defense, we can afford to have Shattenkirk make mistakes in exchange for the offense and pace that he brings. With this defense, every night it's a circus in the defensive zone on all three pairings and our underlying numbers aren't great either.
 

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Lundqvist had every right to be upset when he sees a teammate give up on a play.

Effort wasn't there on the play.

And the Sofia argument against Lundqvist doesn't work this year. Guy is actually having a decent year and has arguably been their best player since November. He is pulling his weight on a poor defensive team.

As he keep declining his antics towards his team mates will just create more and more animosity.
Its really horrible to see how he behaves, disgusting
 

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I have too much shit going on in my life right now I really can't deal with another bad loss like this, just win the f***ing game. Not for me, but for yourselves so you can make the playoffs and get your bonuses.
 

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That's clearly not what I said. That's a criticism of Shattenkirk's defensive ability and inability to execute top 4 defensive roles. With less anchors on the defense, we can afford to have Shattenkirk make mistakes in exchange for the offense and pace that he brings. With this defense, every night it's a circus in the defensive zone on all three pairings and our underlying numbers aren't great either.

What do you think the top six should be?
 

DanielBrassard

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I mean I get it, Shattenkirk has had bad moments defensively. But so does the rest of the team, we suck ass defensively, the worst defensive team in the NHL. He needs to be better though, I won't argue.
 

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As he keep declining his antics towards his team mates will just create more and more animosity.
Its really horrible to see how he behaves, disgusting
Antics. Goalies get pissed when the D leaves them hanging. You're acting like it's only Hank that does it. All goalies do.
 
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