HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Jabba11]

There really isn’t much separating them, imo. They’re different for sure, but similar calibre of prospects in that I see both as projecting to be middle-six players. Both would be bad picks at 5th overall. I’d give the edge to Helenius though due to better work ethic, drive, and IQ, and he’s more well rounded. Sennecke definitely has some better tools (key word: some), but has more deficiencies.

I laughed at this statement from your post. But overall, agreed with the Helenius take!

 

[Garbageyuk]

Just like we lost out on Svechnikov and on one of the 4 Cs last year, also by one pick.

At least getting Slaf made up for some of it.

“Missing out” on Svechnikov isn’t the problem. The problem is they reached for Kotkaniemi due to positional need. If they’d picked Tkachuk or Hughes, nobody here would ever think about Svechnikov.

I laughed at this statement from your post. But overall, agreed with the Helenius take!

Elaborate. Do tell what’s on your mind. This is a discussion forum, after all.

 

[Runner77]

“Missing out” on Svechnikov isn’t the problem. The problem is they reached for Kotkaniemi due to positional need. If they’d picked Tkachuk or Hughes, nobody here would ever think about Svechnikov.

No question but the post I was responding to was about a scenario where the first 4 picks are forwards so I limited my response to that and avoided discussing the picks we flubbed on.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I know we're all hoping this is the last year of our lottery involvement - but it just occurred to me, Habs have 7 picks in the 1st three rounds next year in the Hagens/ Misa draft

 

[Goldenhands]

At 5, I'd rather have Beckett Sennecke than Konsta freaking Helenius.

Come on guys with Helenius, he will be lucky to become Lundell 2.0 and Lundell isn't that good to be picking at 5.

Let's take Beckett Sennecke, the next Matt Boldy, not the next Anton Lundell.

Slack on the beer, they are nothing alike outside of the 200 ft. game, Helenius is much more skilled.

 

[Gravity]

I'll give the benefit of the doubt to this scouting staff until proven otherwise but tentatively, Mickov + a stud D this draft would look a lot better on paper imo.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I want one of the Russian forwards with the late 1st

Chernyshov, Artamonov, or Surin

 

[Garbageyuk]

I want one of the Russian forwards with the late 1st

Chernyshov, Artamonov, or Surin

Chernyshov most likely won’t be there. The others, I’d consider along with Basha, Paraschak, Mews, and Elick (the latter two only if we don’t go with a D at 5).

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Chernyshov most likely won’t be there. The others, I’d consider along with Basha, Paraschak, Mews, and Elick (the latter two only if we don’t go with a D at 5).

Surin is the kind of guy that you can guarantee will get suspended a couple of times in the NHL, and that makes me want to pick him.

Most unhinged player in the draft, on a 4th line with Xhekaj jr they would wreak havoc. His offensive game is super simple but he should be able to get some points just from outworking other players

 

[KevSkillz4]

Slack on the beer, they are nothing alike outside of the 200 ft. game, Helenius is much more skilled.

Ok if Helenius is much skilled, I'm fine with that.

I trust you.

I will never slack on the beer though.

 

[Jabba11]

“Missing out” on Svechnikov isn’t the problem. The problem is they reached for Kotkaniemi due to positional need. If they’d picked Tkachuk or Hughes, nobody here would ever think about Svechnikov.


Elaborate. Do tell what’s on your mind. This is a discussion forum, after all.

I laughed because I agree, both would be bad picks at 5th overall***

Althought, I wouldn't say Helenius is totally a bad pick at 5th overall. I just prefer Demidov/Buium/Dickinson more. But he's a stud

 

[Lazytrout]

Since most of us are fixated on Iginla/Sennecke assuming we miss out of Lindstrom/Demidov and if the last 2 years thought me anything then we're probably drafting Helenius for maximum emotional damage.

At least I'll sleep better knowing he has Goldenhands seal of approval.

 

[Mrb1p]

Since most of us are fixated on Iginla/Sennecke assuming we miss out of Lindstrom/Demidov and if the last 2 years thought me anything then we're probably drafting Helenius for maximum emotional damage.

At least I'll sleep better knowing he has Goldenhands seal of approval.

Cattons the dude I secretly hope they draft. His skill level is off the charts.

 

[CapSpace]

Surin is the kind of guy that you can guarantee will get suspended a couple of times in the NHL, and that makes me want to pick him.

Most unhinged player in the draft, on a 4th line with Xhekaj jr they would wreak havoc. His offensive game is super simple but he should be able to get some points just from outworking other players

Seems that Surin is almost batshit crazy and I want him bad.

 

[Doublechin]

Seems that Surin is almost batshit crazy and I want him bad.

He's a wrecking ball

If he even becomes a 40 point player, he'd be a home run

 

[Mrb1p]

Surin has limited upside but he is gonna be a useful player that's for sure.

Chernysov is fantastic too. Artomonov plays a pro game too.

 

[SlafySZN]

He's a wrecking ball

If he even becomes a 40 point player, he'd be a home run

He has more potential than that.

 

[le_sean]

Helenius didn’t do anything at the U18 and he’s doing nothing at the WC. It’s nice to have a good Liiga season, but the league stinks. There are better options at 5.

 

[Xirik]

Helenius didn’t do anything at the U18 and he’s doing nothing at the WC. It’s nice to have a good Liiga season, but the league stinks. There are better options at 5.

Are you just trying to be dishonest? He's been in one game in the WC and has 1 point.

On what planet is that bad?

 

[NotProkofievian]

So I watched the 3 shift by shifts of Beckett on YouTube, which even in Andy Sutton's eyes makes me an expert. He has some sweet hands, that's for sure. I would be surprised if we take him at 5 though.

 

[River Meadow]

“Missing out” on Svechnikov isn’t the problem. The problem is they reached for Kotkaniemi due to positional need. If they’d picked Tkachuk or Hughes, nobody here would ever think about Svechnikov.

Agreed af.

Draft BPA.

If there is a LHD and RHD, and the LHD is better but they think they need the RHD more because of a positional need, that is a fail, IMO.

 

[RationalExpectations]

At 5, I'd rather have Beckett Sennecke than Konsta freaking Helenius.

Come on guys with Helenius, he will be lucky to become Lundell 2.0 and Lundell isn't that good to be picking at 5.

Let's take Beckett Sennecke, the next Matt Boldy, not the next Anton Lundell.

Lundell is a major contributor to the Panthers success in his D+4 but sure let s make it sound as if he were a bad player.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Agreed af.

Draft BPA.

If there is a LHD and RHD, and the LHD is better but they think they need the RHD more because of a positional need, that is a fail, IMO.

Imagine having
Dickinson/Buium Reinbacher
Guhle Barron
Xhekaj Mailloux

That s a tough team to play against.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Agreed af.

Draft BPA.

If there is a LHD and RHD, and the LHD is better but they think they need the RHD more because of a positional need, that is a fail, IMO.

This is a tough year to not draft a defenceman, for sure. You better hit on a good forward because chances are one of Dickinson, Buium, Silayev, Parekh and maybe even Yakemchuk are going to be hard to find players.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Cattons the dude I secretly hope they draft. His skill level is off the charts.

I'm sure Catton is in their mix of players to evaluate as we head towards the draft. I personally would love to see the Habs draft board and where they rank the forwards.

I'm just not sure what kind of player Catton ends up in the NHL playoffs. I have full confidence he can be very effective in the regular season but not so sure he is the playoff warrior type.

Not trading for Zegras would be the same reason not to draft Catton IMO. Due to the type of forward we are looking to add.