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Helenius sounds like a rich man's Lehkonen that shoots right and can play C. He can also play in the AHL next year, which is a real bonus.
Michkov and Bedard were compared going years back, and widely considered close to neck and neck before their draft years where Michkov didn't get as much exposure and hit pieces came out about his "attitude problems".Yes, Michkov just got god like status through the draft process because he did some stuff at 16, no one watched him much after that and once the Habs passed both Habs fans who wanted Michkov and fanbases who hate the Habs all declared him as good as Bedard.
Demidov has been talked about for awhile, just like Michkov was and there's always been a debate on who is better. Demidov just never got to tear up a WJC or a U18 to get the mainstream hype that comes from being on television.
Yes, you have to rank the players because that's the way the draft works. But that doesn't remove the fact that there's not much that separates some of these players. You can't make that accurate predictions, like if you think one guy is going be a "star defenseman" and the other "star forward", how do you make that decision in a "vacuum" not caring about organizational need?No. BPA means every player being ranked in a vacuum regardless of need.
Yes, you have to rank the players because that's the way the draft works. But that doesn't remove the fact that there's not much that separates some of these players. You can't make that accurate predictions, like if you think one guy is going be a "star defenseman" and the other "star forward", how do you make that decision in a "vacuum" not caring about organizational need?
If we were talking about "star defenseman" vs "possible top 6 guy", then of course. Or a "franchise player" vs "star player". But if the scouts determine that they are in the same tier, that there's no clear answer, how do you make that final ranking?
I don't have that solid a view on any of the prospects, I'm not saying "Buium or bust." If Hughes and his scouts think that at their spot, when they are on the clock, that there is only one player left who projects to be a difference maker they should take that player regardless of position. If they think it is close I expect they will avoid the LDs and consider team fit.Agree with your post except for that part. They don't "have to." And at no lower than 7, they can draft a forward who is, for lack of a better description, "good enough" to pass over maybe a more highly regarded left D, like Buium or Dickinson, for instance. They're not going to draft a left D with their first pick. Leshunov or Parehk? Maybe.
BPA is not an accurate term either, BAA is more realistic, Best Asset Available. Have heard many GMs talk about how hard it is to get Cs or RHDs in trades/ free agency so there’s a supply/demand premium put on those positions over wingers that should be BPA in many cases but fallYes, you have to rank the players because that's the way the draft works. But that doesn't remove the fact that there's not much that separates some of these players. You can't make that accurate predictions, like if you think one guy is going be a "star defenseman" and the other "star forward", how do you make that decision in a "vacuum" not caring about organizational need?
If we were talking about "star defenseman" vs "possible top 6 guy", then of course. Or a "franchise player" vs "star player". But if the scouts determine that they are in the same tier, that there's no clear answer, how do you make that final ranking?
It is known that in 2017 the Flyers scouts had Cale Makar ahead of Nolan Patrick but Paul Holmgren decided to disregard them and go Patrick anyway. Did they have them in the “same tier” or did Holmgren believe “might aswell throw my dart at a center” ?
It is known that in 2017 the Flyers scouts had Cale Makar ahead of Nolan Patrick but Paul Holmgren decided to disregard them and go Patrick anyway. Did they have them in the “same tier” or did Holmgren believe “might aswell throw my dart at a center” ?
It is known that in 2017 the Flyers scouts had Cale Makar ahead of Nolan Patrick but Paul Holmgren decided to disregard them and go Patrick anyway. Did they have them in the “same tier” or did Holmgren believe “might aswell throw my dart at a center” ?
That’s not limited to just Sports, I’m sure we have all worked for bosses that couldn’t find their asses with both hands in the dark that make incredibly dumb decisions due to narcissistic personalities.Easy for me to say because I don’t know what really happened in that room with the Flyers but I don’t get GM/Owners that override their scouting department. Like your organization is spending millions on dollars on those people to fly all over the world and spend countless of hours scouting these prospects. If they tell you after all that player X is who we want and you say no, I want this guy, why ?
I feel like over the years I read so many horror stories of GM/Owner overruling their scouting department just for it to be a bad mistake. Not just in the NHL, but I follow most team sports and it seems to happens everywhere. Best example recently the NBA Kings owner overruling his team when they wanted Doncic. Instead he insisted on Bagley who’s now a bench player for the worst team in the league meanwhile Doncic is on franchise GOAT trajectory.
I’m sure there’s also example of GM/owner overruling and it worked out but we rarely hear about those.
That’s not limited to just Sports, I’m sure we have all worked for bosses that couldn’t find their asses with both hands in the dark that make incredibly dumb decisions due to narcissistic personalities.
Post of the season, congratulationsI could take you out for ice cream?
Truth be told, everyone of our defencemen, current or prospective, other than Hutson, is expendable.Levshunov would definitely make Reinbacher or Mailloux expendable
But as has been discussed here at length, “BPA” is an amorphous, not easy to define, and fluid concept.Truth be told, everyone of our defencemen, current or prospective, other than Hutson, is expendable.
But such an approach is the essence of good asset management: the acquisition of superior talent that adds to your pool of talent who can either directly improve your team or who provides valuable/marketable assets that can be moved for other valuable assets that your team is lacking.
This is the reason that I can't understand those who are threatening to abandon the team if Hughes and Company draft another defenceman at 5 OA. Drafting the best player available is, and remains, an unimpeachable strategy.
Reinbacher will be a lot better then Mailloux.Levshunov would definitely make Reinbacher or Mailloux expendable
Draft eligible 21 year old. Incredible KHL numbers
Demidov or Lindstrom would be a dream….Celebrini is a dream in TechnicolorWe need to do whatever it takes to draft Lindstrom.
Bleacher Report’s latest mock draft has Catton going 20th overall. They clearly hate small people too.