2023 NHL Draft Thread

[Soundgarden]

I just feel like at some point one of Saros or Askarov is getting traded (or Askarov is a bust) so if we can get a good return I’m fine to pull the trigger.

Really depends on what's being offered. Having Saros in front of Askarov means you don't have to worry about the position for a long time if everything works out. If someone is offering a Jeannot worthy overpayment then that's a different story.

 

[101st_fan]

It seems like this is how teams are thinking but I really don't think it's the right outlook on it. Most of the high picking teams aren't going to truly compete for a few years anyway. Might as well get him as a little older/better player on ELC money when you're trying to enter a window.

Exception would probably be Columbus who is trying to compete now.

Best case is sign him summer of 2026 ... if he leaves the KHL for a NHL ELC deal and potential pay cut ... if he stays healthy through three KHL seasons. Three years without him at camps ... three years without him developing within a team's system and alongside future teammates ... three years of having to worry about what the status of relations with Russia is at the point he becomes available.

No team wants to prolong its tank. It's too costly.

It's what makes him a risk/reward question and why he isn't a consensus top 2-3 pick.

 

[Kat Predator]

No team wants to prolong its tank. It's too costly.

Have you met Arizona, yet?

 

[101st_fan]

Have you met Arizona, yet?

A playoff team more recently than Detroit.

 

[Viqsi]

Yeah I’d give up essentially this years whole draft to get one of the top five guys. We already have a pretty strong prospect pool of good but not great talents. I say swing for the fences if you get the opportunity. I’d seriously consider trading Askarov too if that can get us into the top five.

It would be turned down.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

I just feel like at some point one of Saros or Askarov is getting traded (or Askarov is a bust) so if we can get a good return I’m fine to pull the trigger.

if we just want a re-tool, trade Askarov .

If we want a rebuild trade Saros.

It makes no sense not moving one of the assets right now for a top 6 center

 

[PredsV82]

if we just want a re-tool, trade Askarov .

If we want a rebuild trade Saros.

It makes no sense not moving one of the assets right now for a top 6 center

And if we actually want to be good long term, don't trade either

 

[LCPreds]

if we just want a re-tool, trade Askarov .

If we want a rebuild trade Saros.

It makes no sense not moving one of the assets right now for a top 6 center

My logic is basically as follows.

If it's true that Saros, a youngish and proven Vezina-caliber goalie, cannot command something as good as a top line C, then what could we ever possibly hope to get in return for goalie prospect? I don't think we gain anything by trading for anything other than a C at this point. We have cash available to sign top 6 wingers.

 

[Lindgren]

It would be turned down.

It wouldn't get you close to the top five, but there's lots of talk among Canucks fans about the idea of trading down from 11 for Nashville's 15th pick (with the Canucks picking up an additional second, or something like that). Has that idea come up here at all? Does it make any sense to Preds fans?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

It wouldn't get you close to the top five, but there's lots of talk among Canucks fans about the idea of trading down from 11 for Nashville's 15th pick (with the Canucks picking up an additional second, or something like that). Has that idea come up here at all? Does it make any sense to Preds fans?

We have been on that idea for a long time here, yes.

Just it seemed to lose most of its steam when Vancouver opted to buy out OEL. Now they may not feel quite the same pressure to make such a move?

We've been saying that a winger like Garland or Boeser would be a nicer fit to our direct needs, albeit they come with Term remaining. We'd also be able to accommodate Myers instead, although that's more of a pure Dump on us.

 

[Lindgren]

We have been on that idea for a long time here, yes.

Just it seemed to lose most of its steam when Vancouver opted to buy out OEL. Now they may not feel quite the same pressure to make such a move?

We've been saying that a winger like Garland or Boeser would be a nicer fit to our direct needs, albeit they come with Term remaining. We'd also be able to accommodate Myers instead, although that's more of a pure Dump on us.

I don't think the OEL deal affects the logic of trading down for the Canucks, so ... we'll see. As to Nashville taking Garland or Boeser, the buyout certainly takes some pressure off, but most Canuck fans would still be happy if something could be worked out there. How management thinks is anybody's guess.

Thanks for replying to my question. Much appreciated.

 

[BigFatCat999]

If you are talking about staight value trades #15 and #24 could get you pretty close to #5; #15, #24, #111 might be the magic number.

EDIT; Trade that might be interesting is Duchene at 2 mil to Washington.

 

[PredsV82]

Totally forgot the awards ahow was tonight. I know @101st_fan is there, hopefully some more of you got to go...

Hope a good time is had by all.

 

[Gnashville]

It wouldn't get you close to the top five, but there's lots of talk among Canucks fans about the idea of trading down from 11 for Nashville's 15th pick (with the Canucks picking up an additional second, or something like that). Has that idea come up here at all? Does it make any sense to Preds fans?

The Predators drafting at 11 seems like their default setting.


As far as Michkov goes how about a 3way
Ottawa gets Karlsson (1/2 cap hit)
Predators get 4th overall plus 1/2 Karlsson cap hit
San Jose gets DeBrincat, Preds 15th and 24th and Ottawa 1st next year

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The Predators drafting at 11 seems like their default setting.


As far as Michkov goes how about a 3way
Ottawa gets Karlsson (1/2 cap hit)
Predators get 4th overall plus 1/2 Karlsson cap hit
San Jose gets DeBrincat, Preds 15th and 24th and Ottawa 1st next year

15, 24 and 50% of Karlsson's Cap ($5.75M) for Michkov? I would pass. Hockey is a team game, and we will do better standing pat.

 

[Gnashville]

15, 24 and 50% of Karlsson's Cap ($5.75M) for Michkov? I would pass. Hockey is a team game, and we will do better standing pat.

Would you make the same trade for Bedard?

 

[braindead]

15, 24 and 50% of Karlsson's Cap ($5.75M) for Michkov? I would pass. Hockey is a team game, and we will do better standing pat.

I’d do that deal and throw in Fabbro, Duschene, Poile’s kid, and that creepy Pekka statue for Michkov and not miss a beat.

 

[HabsPreds]

I’d do that deal and throw in Fabbro, Duschene, Poile’s kid, and that creepy Pekka statue for Michkov and not miss a beat.

Ok but the statue must stay!

 

[nine_inch_fang]

People are stupid and I'm glad they can't be the GM.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Would you make the same trade for Bedard?

Obivously. But it's not like we're getting either offer, so I don't really see the point.

 

[Kat Predator]

Morreale says Preds have no prospects at winger. [Edit: he says Preds "need help on the wing". Which ignores that wing is the deepest position in the prospect pool, but whatever.]

Final Mock 2023 NHL Draft: Intrigue after 1st 4 picks | NHL.com

Canadiens selection at No. 5 unclear after Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith go off board

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[LCPreds]

Morreale says Preds have no prospects at winger.

Final Mock 2023 NHL Draft: Intrigue after 1st 4 picks | NHL.com

Canadiens selection at No. 5 unclear after Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith go off board

www.nhl.com

I'm sorry but this is the type of word twisting that causes all kinds of problems in our regular life/politics right now. That is not at all what he said. Do we not need help on the wing in our prospect pool?

Morreale -- Gabriel Perreault, RW, USA U-18 (NTDP): Nashville needs help on the wing in its prospect pool and Perreault (5-11, 163) led the NTDP in goals, assists and points and was second for the United States at the U-18 Worlds with 18 points (five goals, 13 assists) in seven games. The son of former NHL center Yanic Perreault has great instincts, smarts and knows how to put himself in good areas to create offense.

 

[Kat Predator]

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[LCPreds]

It was meant as a joke.

Then it went way over my head and still does. Perhaps a second cup of coffee will help?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I'm sorry but this is the type of word twisting that causes all kinds of problems in our regular life/politics right now. That is not at all what he said. Do we not need help on the wing in our prospect pool?

Am I missing something? He said we need help on the wing in our prospect pool... when wing is the strongest position in our prospect pool. Where we need a little bit of help on wing is in our NHL lineup for the coming season, not our prospect pool.

But anyway, it doesn't mean we couldn't draft another winger anyway. If that's the best player. It just sounds weird to justify doing so by claiming that's something we're particularly lacking.