Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

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[Terry Yake]

I would disagree with anyone saying Michkov would be a #1 overall contender if not for the political situation in Russia.

Bedard is the guy. It’s as clear cut as it gets. He’s one of the best prospects of all time.

if it weren't the the whole russia situation, the clear cut top 3 would be bedard-michkov-fantilli. there'd be debates over bedard/michkov at #1 but bedard has the slight edge for me

 

[AngelDuck]

if it weren't the the whole russia situation, the clear cut top 3 would be bedard-michkov-fantilli. there'd be debates over bedard/michkov at #1 but bedard has the slight edge for me

Fair to say but completely disagree there would even be a debate. Bedard has torched every opposition he’s faced and I understand that Michkov had less exposure in a tougher league and didn’t get to play in the WJC. But I just don’t know how you say he’s even in the ballpark based on what he’s accomplished

And that’s not really a knock on him. Bedard has a better pre-NHL track record than McDavid and Crosby

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I would disagree with anyone saying Michkov would be a #1 overall contender if not for the political situation in Russia.

Bedard is the guy. It’s as clear cut as it gets. He’s one of the best prospects of all time.

I actually think michkov and Fantilli are very similar level prospects in terms of hockey ability.

Carlsson is a bit of a wild card to me. I think he’s a bit of a project and could see him taking time to figure it out

I think it’s, for me personally

Bedard

Michkov
Fantilli

Carlsson


I feel much more confident in a fantilli pick… but I’m not mad at any of the 3 non Russians

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I have to work right through it so I wipo only see the results after. Not sure if that's good or bad

Same, though not work but dinner (no screens at the table).

 

[HanSolo]

I would disagree with anyone saying Michkov would be a #1 overall contender if not for the political situation in Russia.

Bedard is the guy. It’s as clear cut as it gets. He’s one of the best prospects of all time.

I actually think michkov and Fantilli are very similar level prospects in terms of hockey ability.

Carlsson is a bit of a wild card to me. I think he’s a bit of a project and could see him taking time to figure it out

I think it depends on what you mean by that. When I look at Carlsson I honestly see him as the safest pick possible aside from Bedard. For me, it would take very little for him to be a very productive top 6 guy. Where he needs to figure things out is his ability to play a top end level game in the NHL, get a little more tenacity to be able to exceed the pace and pressure of NHL defenses to use his physical gifts and skills to have superstar level output.

 

[Mr Rogers]

It will be stressful and honestly they will probably take the entire 30 mins or hour (however long it’s gonna be) to reveal the final two picks.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

All this talk about Bedard reminds me of the days of Teemu and Paul. They were just magical together. The skating, the passing, the shooting. If you never saw them then you really missed out. Maybe Bedard can rekindle some of that old magic.

 

[Mr Rogers]

 

[Gliff]

I think it’s possible with the hype the younger guys got from the U18s.

 

[AngelDuck]

All this talk about Bedard reminds me of the days of Teemu and Paul. They were just magical together. The skating, the passing, the shooting. If you never saw them then you really missed out. Maybe Bedard can rekindle some of that old magic.

Paul/Teemu played the exact opposite style of Getzlaf/Perry but were similar levels of impact.

It’s funny to think about

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I would disagree with anyone saying Michkov would be a #1 overall contender if not for the political situation in Russia.

Bedard is the guy. It’s as clear cut as it gets. He’s one of the best prospects of all time.

I actually think michkov and Fantilli are very similar level prospects in terms of hockey ability.

Carlsson is a bit of a wild card to me. I think he’s a bit of a project and could see him taking time to figure it out

CHL ages: 16 - 20
NCAA ages: 17 - 24
SHL ages: 16 - 32+

Bedards plays in the CHL. There are lots of good teams and lots of terrible teams in CHL(WHL). Fantilli plays in the NCAA. There are lots of good teams and lots of terrible teams in the NCAA. Carlsson plays in the SHL. It's mostly good teams in the SHL as the weaker teams are regulated to a lower tier, HockeyAllsvenskan.

The only place we can compare all three is their play at the WJC-20.

• Team Canada, WJC-20
  • Bedard: 7 games, 9g + 14a = 23 pts (first on team), and +14 rating
  • Fantilli: 7 games, 2g + 3a = 5 pts (9th on team), and +0 rating

• Team Sweden, WJC-20
  • Carlsson: 7 games, 3g + 3a = 6 pts (3rd on team), and +4 rating

Fantilli was blazing fast, darting in and out, but it looked like he was playing a game all by himself instead of with his teammates, a directionless whirling dervish. I was confused because I was hyped to see both Bedard and Fantilli play as well as dominate. Bedard did dominate as he won tourney MVP, all-star, and best forward. Fantilli got lost in the shuffle.

Carlsson had himself a great showing at the WJC-18.

There is some caution with Fantilli's prolific scoring, it gets a bit muted against tougher competition. I discovered this when looking at the Big-10 tourney and Frozen Four tourney.

OTOH, Carlsson's SHL playoffs performance had him leading his team in assists (8a), second in scoring (9 pts), and second in plus/minus (+8) in 13 playoff games. The offensive output surprised me that Carlsson was one of the team players carrying it's offensive load when compared to his regular season. Maybe Carlsson can carry a team and we're underselling him.

Bedard is a generational talent now. Fantilli looks amazing and has bite now. Carlsson is the best two-way player today. Question is, what will they all be in the next few years? Carlsson's offensive playoff outburst against men might have increased his ceiling a bit more. What's also a positive for Carlsson is that this is his second season in the SHL, implying he could make the NHL jump next year... not that he should, but the possibility exists.

The consolation prize of Carlsson at 3rd overall would be a huge win for Anaheim who already has three top-6 youthful forwards.

 

[nbducksfan19]

Fair to say but completely disagree there would even be a debate. Bedard has torched every opposition he’s faced and I understand that Michkov had less exposure in a tougher league and didn’t get to play in the WJC. But I just don’t know how you say he’s even in the ballpark based on what he’s accomplished

And that’s not really a knock on him. Bedard has a better pre-NHL track record than McDavid and Crosby

Well he did play in the WJC- 18 and led the entire tournament in points, outscoring bedard.

That being said, if no Russia factor, I think he’s still pretty clearly behind Bedard, but would almost certainly be 2nd.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

All this talk about Bedard reminds me of the days of Teemu and Paul. They were just magical together. The skating, the passing, the shooting. If you never saw them then you really missed out. Maybe Bedard can rekindle some of that old magic.

I think we'd have a very potent scoring top 2 lines:

Strome - Zegras - Terry
Rico - McTavish - Bedard

McTavish-Bedard has always been a pair and roommates for all WJC tourneys together.

 

[lwvs84]

I think we'd have a very potent scoring top 2 lines:

Strome - Zegras - Terry
Rico - McTavish - Bedard

McTavish-Bedard has always been a pair and roommates for all WJC tourneys together.

Even if it's in pre-season or for a few games, I'd like to see Jones in that Strome spot. Big, goes to the dirty areas, and actually showed offensive improvement last season... and has a motor that never stops (until he gets hurt). Could also put Rico with Zegras and Jones with McTavish (but I guess that would be a REALLY young line).

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Paul/Teemu played the exact opposite style of Getzlaf/Perry but were similar levels of impact.

It’s funny to think about

When those two guys started a rush it was amazing to watch, even when they didn't score. The saucer passes were just so accurate and awesome to see.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

https://thehockeynews.com/news/nhl-draft-lottery-primer-how-rare-is-a-win-for-each-contender

 

[HanSolo]

It's kind of upsetting to think that the last place team picked first the last two drafts under new rules. Feels like a trend that is gonna get bucked at our expense.

 

[lwvs84]

It's kind of upsetting to think that the last place team picked first the last two drafts under new rules. Feels like a trend that is gonna get bucked at our expense.

That's what I was saying (that the last place team probably wouldn't win) before we got the 1st. Now I know that's going to happen.

 

[HanSolo]

That's what I was saying (that the last place team probably wouldn't win) before we got the 1st. Now I know that's going to happen.

I gotta watch more Fantilli and Carlsson footage. I'm getting lottery anxiety.

 

[Mr Rogers]

My cable guide is showing the draft lottery will be 30 mins so the agony won’t last an entire hour at least lol

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I’m not watching it. I’ll just take a jolt of 220 once.

 

[duckaroosky]

Less than 24 hours to go!

My cable guide is showing the draft lottery will be 30 mins so the agony won’t last an entire hour at least lol

Yeah, the agony will be about a decade as we watch Bedard on a rival team.

 

[Terry Yake]

It's kind of upsetting to think that the last place team picked first the last two drafts under new rules. Feels like a trend that is gonna get bucked at our expense.

oh you know 100% it won't happen again this season

 

[HanSolo]

oh you know 100% it won't happen again this season

Yeah but. With less than 24 hours to go, I keep hoping it will :/

I'll still be happy with Leo or Fanta obviously but I keep fantasizing about Bedard.

 

[KyleJRM]

The ways people find to emotionally cope with probability are ... interesting.