Speculation: 2022 Off-Season | Dethroned: What next?

[TheSchmidt]

That Milano card looks niiiiiice.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

That Milano card looks niiiiiice.

Was reading that dude had an incredible first half, but didn't do shit in the second.

True?

 

[TheSchmidt]

Was reading that dude had an incredible first half, but didn't do shit in the second.

True?

Didn't watch a single Ducks game all year (unless vs TB) so I coudn't tell ya

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Didn't watch a single Ducks game all year (unless vs TB) so I coudn't tell ya

Ducks fans saying he's not that great and bad defensively.

 

[Felonious Python]

 

[TheSchmidt]

Dubas putting his job on the line for Matt Murray is something

that team is a legit cup contender everywhere else

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I don't care if he is good or not...We must get Colton Point just for the memes. He must play some shifts with Colton and Point.

 

[Felonious Python]

I don't care if he is good or not...We must get Colton Point just for the memes. He must play some shifts with Colton and Point.

Well, he's a goalie.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Was reading that dude had an incredible first half, but didn't do shit in the second.

True?

Yeah he was gang buster in the beginning of the season, and then he just disappeared. He doesn't really play a good defensive game, kind of like Phil Kessel. But he is young enough, and possibly cheap enough where we could force him to play some D. He is an extreme playmaker, so where he would fit would be a little messy. Not going on the first line, might be able to be the creative aspect to get Killorn and Cirelli to start scoring.

Well, he's a goalie.

I swear I didn't even look it up. But I don't care, he's moving to wing. Also how's Donato been?

 

[Felonious Python]

Yeah he was gang buster in the beginning of the season, and then he just disappeared. He doesn't really play a good defensive game, kind of like Phil Kessel. But he is young enough, and possibly cheap enough where we could force him to play some D. He is an extreme playmaker, so where he would fit would be a little messy. Not going on the first line, might be able to be the creative aspect to get Killorn and Cirelli to start scoring.


I swear I didn't even look it up. But I don't care, he's moving to wing. Also how's Donato been?

74 games, 16g, 15a, 31pts

 

[DistantThunderRep]

74 games, 16g, 15a, 31pts

His advanced stats don't look too terrible considering he was playing on Seattle with Hakstol's shit system. But he's was playing more offensive zone starts by a good margin. I don't see him getting that same opportunity here. Unless some how someone thinks he can fit in on the top line? I don't see it, but I don't know shit honestly.

 

[Todd1a]

Wow there were so many better options out there

 

[TheSchmidt]

He says:

Cirelli 4x5.24
Serge 5x6.58
Cernak 6x4.98

Says they will be tight for now but these contracts should look good in a couple years when the cap is expected to go up by a decent amount.

If he's in the ballpark on these, that's a total raise of of about $4.5 million from their current contracts. Which basically replaces the cost of Killorn's contract next year. Then we have $2 million coming off with Perry and PEB next year, which could be used for part of a Killorn extension, depending how well he plays and if they even want to bring him back. I'm sure both parties would love for him to play his entire career here.

 

[Rschmitz]

Did not think Seattle would not qualify Fleury. Of all the guys we could possibly sign this off-season I put him at the top of the list of most likely to get a phone call. Should be extremely cheap and checks all the boxes that management likes

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

This could be what finally gets Dubas fired if it doesn't work out. Wonder what analytics he's seeing that suggests a rebound.

 

[TheSchmidt]

So someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we'll have about $6.8 million in cap space after Seabrook goes on LTIR, correct?

And we'll use that to (likely) replace Palat and bring in LHD to replace Mac. Ideally $2mil on a dman and $4-5mil on a forward.

Calvin de Haan jumps out to me as an ideal replacement on defense. But the UFA market is so thin on quality dmen, so I could see a team giving him $3mil+, hopefully not though. Options after him aren't pretty unless I'm overlooking someone.

As weak as the dman market is, the winger market is the complete opposite. There are solid cheaper options that have been mentioned in this thread, like Dylan Strome, Kubalik, Milano, etc.. But can't see JBB going that route unless there is a vet out there not willing to take a smaller deal to come here.

My top option is Nino Niederreiter. But he is around the same age as Palat and looking at his last big payday. Made $5.2 million last year and had a pretty good year, so could be out of our range.

Other guys are Mason Marchment and Ilya Mikheyev. Both are coming off really good years, but they're both 26/27 and that was the first good year of their careers. One year wonders or coming into their own? That could shy away a lot of teams from throwing big money at them. If JBB likes one of them he could try to throw big years at them to knock off some salary like he did with Paul. Think I saw Mikheyev was looking between $4.5 and $5.5 million.

Then after them you have the 'vets' like Perron, Stastny, Giroux, Kessel, and Malkin (pipedream).

 

[Rschmitz]

What do you all think about stashing Elliott in the minors and signing Samsonov to backup Vasy?

 

[Rschmitz]

So someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we'll have about $6.8 million in cap space after Seabrook goes on LTIR, correct?

And we'll use that to (likely) replace Palat and bring in LHD to replace Mac. Ideally $2mil on a dman and $4-5mil on a forward.

Calvin de Haan jumps out to me as an ideal replacement on defense. But the UFA market is so thin on quality dmen, so I could see a team giving him $3mil+, hopefully not though. Options after him aren't pretty unless I'm overlooking someone.

As weak as the dman market is, the winger market is the complete opposite. There are solid cheaper options that have been mentioned in this thread, like Dylan Strome, Kubalik, Milano, etc.. But can't see JBB going that route unless there is a vet out there not willing to take a smaller deal to come here.

My top option is Nino Niederreiter. But he is around the same age as Palat and looking at his last big payday. Made $5.2 million last year and had a pretty good year, so could be out of our range.

Other guys are Mason Marchment and Ilya Mikheyev. Both are coming off really good years, but they're both 26/27 and that was the first good year of their careers. One year wonders or coming into their own? That could shy away a lot of teams from throwing big money at them. If JBB likes one of them he could try to throw big years at them to knock off some salary like he did with Paul. Think I saw Mikheyev was looking between $4.5 and $5.5 million.

Then after them you have the 'vets' like Perron, Stastny, Giroux, Kessel, and Malkin (pipedream).

He'd fit but like you said, a little to expensive for what we need.

 

[TheSchmidt]

What do you all think about stashing Elliott in the minors and signing Samsonov to backup Vasy?

I think he'll get a decent contract from a rebuilding team like New Jersey or Buffalo to see if they can fix him.

 

[Todd1a]

Lots of options on the market to replace palat if I were I’m I’d take the deal the Lightning offered me

 

[TheSchmidt]

Sounds like Rakell will re-sign with Pittsburgh at 5x5.

Nice player, but don't like that setting the market for the rest of the top UFA wingers

 

[Felonious Python]

What do you all think about stashing Elliott in the minors and signing Samsonov to backup Vasy?

We wouldn't do that to Elliott. TB would at least try to find an NHL team for him.

 

[TampaBoltz]

You would think Palat would only leave to go to a team with a chance to win a cup. If Carolina doesn’t sign Niederreiter, Palat would fit well there. Hard forechecking team that is close to winning. Management would probably like him for his style and effort

 

[JTBF81]

So someone correct me if I'm wrong, but we'll have about $6.8 million in cap space after Seabrook goes on LTIR, correct?

And we'll use that to (likely) replace Palat and bring in LHD to replace Mac. Ideally $2mil on a dman and $4-5mil on a forward.

Calvin de Haan jumps out to me as an ideal replacement on defense. But the UFA market is so thin on quality dmen, so I could see a team giving him $3mil+, hopefully not though. Options after him aren't pretty unless I'm overlooking someone.

As weak as the dman market is, the winger market is the complete opposite. There are solid cheaper options that have been mentioned in this thread, like Dylan Strome, Kubalik, Milano, etc.. But can't see JBB going that route unless there is a vet out there not willing to take a smaller deal to come here.

My top option is Nino Niederreiter. But he is around the same age as Palat and looking at his last big payday. Made $5.2 million last year and had a pretty good year, so could be out of our range.

Other guys are Mason Marchment and Ilya Mikheyev. Both are coming off really good years, but they're both 26/27 and that was the first good year of their careers. One year wonders or coming into their own? That could shy away a lot of teams from throwing big money at them. If JBB likes one of them he could try to throw big years at them to knock off some salary like he did with Paul. Think I saw Mikheyev was looking between $4.5 and $5.5 million.

Then after them you have the 'vets' like Perron, Stastny, Giroux, Kessel, and Malkin (pipedream).

Tampa has around 5.94 million available as of right now, assuming they are actually keeping Myers for some reason.

 

[TheSchmidt]

Tampa has around 5.94 million available as of right now, assuming they are actually keeping Myers for some reason.

oof, that makes a tough situation a little tougher