OT: 2022-23 - Official Panic Thread

[Adrianopolous]

The wheels have started to fall off and November has just started.

This is terrible...

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[Stylizer1]

 

[Senscore]

I don't think panic is the right word.


Playoffs was never a guarantee. Even with a good start ending up on the outside looking in was always a very likely possibility, maybe even the most likely one.

What I am is angry that it once again only took until early November to take away any of the mystery about it.

 

[bert]

I don't think panic is the right word.


Playoffs was never a guarantee. Even with a good start ending up on the outside looking in was always a very likely possibility, maybe even the most likely one.

What I am is angry that it once again only took until early November to take away any of the mystery about it.

Playoffs weren't expected but playing meaningful hockey was. Well that dream is dead too. This team has no chance to make the playoffs. Just an absolute disgrace of a start to the season. Which has done the one thing they couldn't eliminate all hope or reason to watch this season. Same old song and dance. Too far behind to make it go on a shitty meaningless win streak at the end and screw up the draft position. Worst possible outcome of being a fan. One year of this sure it sucks. 2 brutal.... 3 that can kill a person's Fandom for good.

 

[TeamRenzo]

I don't think panic is the right word.


Playoffs was never a guarantee. Even with a good start ending up on the outside looking in was always a very likely possibility, maybe even the most likely one.

What I am is angry that it once again only took until early November to take away any of the mystery about it.

I am fine with the Sens not making the playoffs but to be pretty much out of contention in freaking November is no longer acceptable.

 

[Adrianopolous]

Playoffs weren't expected but playing meaningful hockey was. Well that dream is dead too. This team has no chance to make the playoffs. Just an absolute disgrace of a start to the season. Which has done the one thing they couldn't eliminate all hope or reason to watch this season. Same old song and dance. Too far behind to make it go on a shitty meaningless win streak at the end and screw up the draft position. Worst possible outcome of being a fan. One year of this sure it sucks. 2 brutal.... 3 that can kill a person's Fandom for good.

Yes you nailed it. Watch them go on a meaningless streak in late March and April, killing our draft position, and feeding false hope to the fanbase over the summer.

I am a hockey fan because it is an enjoyable pastime and a distraction from the real world. But we're now going on 6 years of pure misery and meaningless hockey. Being out of playoff contention this early means that I don't get to enjoy any hockey at all this year.

 

[Silencio]

Sens fans at the beginning of the season vs Sens fans now

 

[robsenz]

Rebuild failed. That sucks. Move certain assets for players that actually give a ****

 

[Cosmix]

Rebuild failed. That sucks. Move certain assets for players that actually give a ****

Who's rebuild?

 

[Very Stable Genius]

I hope new ownership shitcans everyone except maybe Mann and a few well regarded scouts

 

[tstracuzza]

Why do we not give Pinto more than 1 game as a top 6 center... f***ing stupid. the third line was trash last night. he had one shift with bathman and the cat and they almost scored.

 

[Big Muddy]

It seems apparent now that the offseason moves were connected to boosting attendance to help boost the interest and value of the team.

With that in mind, its good to reexamine the moves that were made. More specifically, you would wonder about the Debrincat acquisition and the price paid as far as long term impact. Its easy to say we'll recoup the assets if we move him, and there's a decent chance that will occur, but I wouldn't call it a given or automatic. I think it will be interesting to follow Korchinski's career to see how that pans out.

 

[Larionov]

As opposed to panic, I just feel the pain and existential dread that comes with having to watch my team play 70 more games knowing full well that they have no meaningful shot at the playoffs. It just makes for such a long, painful winter.

I liked this team better when we had no talent, but we at least had character and worked hard. Now the character is gone, the physical play is gone, and we are either choke artists are just plain bad. Give me back the 2019-20 team - I knew they were bad, but at least I had hope for a better future. Now that future has arrived, and it turns out to have been a cruel joke.

 

[Beech]

year	draft P	name	age	comments
2015	R1 #18	Chabot	25 soon to be 26	a success who is struggling at this time
2015	R4 #107	Wolanin	27	a bust
2015	R6 #139	Jaros	26	a bust
2016	R4 #133	Lajoie	25	a bust
2017	--	---	----
2018	r1 #26	Docker	22	so far a minor leaguer that is slow in developing
2018	r2 #48	Tychonick	22	a bust
2019	r1 #19	Thomson	22	so far a minor leaguer that is slow in developing
2019	r7 #187	Gunette	21	so far a minor leaguer, on his way to being a bust
2020	r1 #5	Sanderson	20	a star in the making
2020	r2 #44	Klevin	20 soon to be 21	still in college. No definitive feel for his future

this should trouble people.
6 years. Players who should be 20-27..10 picks. So far 2 success
4 first rounders, 2 successes
2 second rounders, a bust and an unknown
4 thirds-sevenths, 4 busts
6 years should have meant 42 total available picks. Assuming 3 to have been spent on goalies. It left 39 for forwards and D.. at a 2: 1 ratio (12 forwards, 6 d per game) 26 forwards, 13 D men
They drafted 10! only 2 are success so far. This rebuild may just be stalled.

 

[SensFactor]

Where did Zub come from? We should go there to find more like him.

 

[bicboi64]

Where did Zub come from? We should go there to find more like him.

KHL, we should look to his former team SKA Saint Petersburg to try and poach another defender who might be getting too good for the KHL.

 

[Sting]

this should trouble people.
6 years. Players who should be 20-27..10 picks. So far 2 success
4 first rounders, 2 successes
2 second rounders, a bust and an unknown
4 thirds-sevenths, 4 busts
6 years should have meant 42 total available picks. Assuming 3 to have been spent on goalies. It left 39 for forwards and D.. at a 2: 1 ratio (12 forwards, 6 d per game) 26 forwards, 13 D men
They drafted 10! only 2 are success so far. This rebuild may just be stalled.

This has been my point all along. A rebuild is not successful unless you acquire one or two franchise players from it. Every Cup contender has done so (except maybe the Blues, but you could argue Tarasenko/Pieterangelo qualify).

We don't possess a franchise player on our club. I don't think Brady or Stu are going to hit that. Sanderson might from the back end.

Nonetheless, we're married to these guys long-term. There's a good chance that we end up similar to a lot of clubs which is middle of the pack for the next 10 years until we re-build again.

Of course, Bedard would change all of that. But we won't be bottom 3.

 

[Alex1234]

Why do we not give Pinto more than 1 game as a top 6 center... f***ing stupid. the third line was trash last night. he had one shift with bathman and the cat and they almost scored.

Exactly
The guy is a rookie
And you decide after 1 game that he is bad at 1C without giving him the chance to adjust but you carry your big .439% fat record everywhere smoking and joking

GTFO

 

[jake1]

Just me but I don't think the season is over. It's very long, with ups and downs. This is a down. The personnel is better than last year, so they're better equipped to eventually go on some winning streaks.

 

[Ouroboros]

The franchise just never recovered from waiving Balcers. All downhill from there.

 

[swiftwin]

year	draft P	name	age	comments
2015	R1 #18	Chabot	25 soon to be 26	a success who is struggling at this time
2015	R4 #107	Wolanin	27	a bust
2015	R6 #139	Jaros	26	a bust
2016	R4 #133	Lajoie	25	a bust
2017	--	---	----
2018	r1 #26	Docker	22	so far a minor leaguer that is slow in developing
2018	r2 #48	Tychonick	22	a bust
2019	r1 #19	Thomson	22	so far a minor leaguer that is slow in developing
2019	r7 #187	Gunette	21	so far a minor leaguer, on his way to being a bust
2020	r1 #5	Sanderson	20	a star in the making
2020	r2 #44	Klevin	20 soon to be 21	still in college. No definitive feel for his future

this should trouble people.
6 years. Players who should be 20-27..10 picks. So far 2 success
4 first rounders, 2 successes
2 second rounders, a bust and an unknown
4 thirds-sevenths, 4 busts
6 years should have meant 42 total available picks. Assuming 3 to have been spent on goalies. It left 39 for forwards and D.. at a 2: 1 ratio (12 forwards, 6 d per game) 26 forwards, 13 D men
They drafted 10! only 2 are success so far. This rebuild may just be stalled.

Any team would be lucky to draft Chabot + Sanderson in the last 7 years.

I'm also not sure how you can call a 7th round 21yr old defenseman who's been steadily rising the depth chart a bust. 20-22 year old defensemen rarely make a huge impact at that age.

 

[Alex1234]

Just me but I don't think the season is over. It's very long, with ups and downs. This is a down. The personnel is better than last year, so they're better equipped to eventually go on some winning streaks.

We need 92 points in the next 70 games (.657)

Right now were pacing at .333

Only 6 teams are pacing at >.657

Yes its over

Yes in november

Yes again

 

[thinkwild]

Oh come on, this is still a young team that is learning how to win and developing an identity. This year was always a growth year. Maybe next year the existential angst may look a little less drama-queenish.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Oh come on, this is still a young team that is learning how to win and developing an identity. This year was always a growth year. Maybe next year the existential angst may look a little less drama-queenish.

Those sound an awful lot like the tempering words from G this summer after signing here.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Oh come on, this is still a young team that is learning how to win and developing an identity. This year was always a growth year. Maybe next year the existential angst may look a little less drama-queenish.

I'm not going to pretend like I had them as a playoff team, but we're in the exact same spot after 12 games that we were the last 5 years. Is playing meaningful games in November/December after 5 years of bottom feeding that much to ask for? Our season could very well be on the line tomorrow and it's against the hottest team in the league. There's plenty of reason to panic.