2022-2023 Senators Prospect Watch

[God Says No]

I'm sure Crookshank will be added at sometime

Great. But then I would remove Aspirot, Lucchini, Chartier, etc. I don't think they are considered prospects.

 

[Bileur]

Call me crazy but I’m not willing to write off an NHL future for Aspirot. He’s only 23 and is consistently a favourite of coaches and seems like a veteran out there already. Seems like a guy who could carve out a third pair role in a few years.

He’s got some Francois Beauchemin/Andrew Ference vibes.

 

[mianjo]

Great. But then I would remove Aspirot, Lucchini, Chartier, etc. I don't think they are considered prospects.

I do not make up this list, it comes from Ottawa Senators at eliteprospects.com

 

[Xspyrit]

Such a weird list. A good chunk of these guys I would not consider prospects and hence would not track them. Also another set that is missing, that I would for sure consider prospects and track. For example Crookshank.

Rourke Chartier, Jayce Hawryluk, Olle Alsing, Jacob Larsson and Scott Sabourin are not prospects anymore. I would put an asterisk beside Jake Lucchini as he will end up as one of the best players in history but technically he's not a prospect anymore as well

And considering Vitali Abramov won't come back to NA before he's 25-26 y/o+, I don't consider him as a prospect anymore. It's like a Wikstrand situation, as we waited on the guy for nothing. Some might still be waiting lol

Keep in mind we are ahead of the season and some prospects will be added going forward, such as AHL prospects (like Crookshank). Notice that guys like Sokolov and Greig, etc are not there as well

Great. But then I would remove Aspirot, Lucchini, Chartier, etc. I don't think they are considered prospects.

Jonathan Aspirot is a prospect as he is still 23 years old. He hasn't played in the NHL yet. The only thing is he wasn't drafted which usually makes people see the player as not having a great chance to make it. But look at Parker Kelly for example, same situation as he signed as a free agent. And he's been voted 16th in the pool

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I came here looking for an update on Crookshank but see a discussion of who is and isn't a prospect. We recently had this discussion on the HFPens board. We didn't come up with a consensus thought but my qualifiers are:

1. Has to be younger than 25 come September 15th.
2. Has to have fewer than #### NHL minutes played (cumulative) given their age. I don't have a qualifier on this for goalies yet. See image below.
3. Must only be on their first or second NHL contract.

People wanted to use the Calder eligibility as prospect eligibility, but I find that definition flawed.

 

[mianjo]

Mondays Prospects update, with first stat of the season, Abramov leading scorer.....
2022-2023 SKATER STATS

	N	PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	GP	G	A	TP	PPG	PIM	+/-
1.		Vitali Abramov (LW/RW)	CSKA Moskva	KHL	2	1	1	2	1.00	2	1
2.		Luke Loheit (RW)	Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
3.		Jake Lucchini (C/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
4.		Rourke Chartier (C)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
5.		Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
6.		Olle Alsing (D)	Leksands IF	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
7.		Jacob Larsson (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
8.		Kristians Rubins (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
9.		Jakov Novak (LW/C)	Northeastern Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
10.		Cole Reinhardt (LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
11.		Jonny Tychonick (D)	Univ. of Nebraska-Omaha	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
12.		Scott Sabourin (RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
13.		Maxence Guénette (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
14.		Oliver Johansson (C)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
15.		Stephen Halliday (C)	Ohio State Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
16.		Zack Ostapchuk (LW)	Vancouver Giants	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
17.		Carson Latimer (RW)	Prince Albert Raiders	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
18.		Tyler Kleven (D)	Univ. of North Dakota	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
19.		Tomas Hamara (D)	Kitchener Rangers	OHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
20.		Oskar Pettersson (RW)	Rögle BK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
21.		Theo Wallberg (D)	Dubuque Fighting Saints	USHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
22.		Filip Nordberg (D)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK	HockeyAllsvenskan	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
23.		Jonathan Aspirot (D/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

 

[mianjo]

Abramov scores his 2nd goal in a 5-1 defeat

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Abramov scores his 2nd goal in a 5-1 defeat

Interesting

 

[Sweatred]

Interesting

How so ? Feels irrelevant to me.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Abramov scores his 2nd goal in a 5-1 defeat

Also finished +3 on the night.

 

[mianjo]

Also finished +3 on the night.

It would be hard to be +3 when they lost 5-1, his stats were

Abramov V. 1g 0a 1pt 3 sog 13:13 toi

 

[Cosmix]

Mondays Prospects update, with first stat of the season, Abramov leading scorer.....
2022-2023 SKATER STATS

	N	PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	GP	G	A	TP	PPG	PIM	+/-
1.		Vitali Abramov (LW/RW)	CSKA Moskva	KHL	2	1	1	2	1.00	2	1
2.		Luke Loheit (RW)	Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
3.		Jake Lucchini (C/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
4.		Rourke Chartier (C)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
5.		Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
6.		Olle Alsing (D)	Leksands IF	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
7.		Jacob Larsson (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
8.		Kristians Rubins (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
9.		Jakov Novak (LW/C)	Northeastern Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
10.		Cole Reinhardt (LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
11.		Jonny Tychonick (D)	Univ. of Nebraska-Omaha	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
12.		Scott Sabourin (RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
13.		Maxence Guénette (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
14.		Oliver Johansson (C)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
15.		Stephen Halliday (C)	Ohio State Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
16.		Zack Ostapchuk (LW)	Vancouver Giants	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
17.		Carson Latimer (RW)	Prince Albert Raiders	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
18.		Tyler Kleven (D)	Univ. of North Dakota	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
19.		Tomas Hamara (D)	Kitchener Rangers	OHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
20.		Oskar Pettersson (RW)	Rögle BK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
21.		Theo Wallberg (D)	Dubuque Fighting Saints	USHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
22.		Filip Nordberg (D)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK	HockeyAllsvenskan	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
23.		Jonathan Aspirot (D/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

What is the rationale for the order?

 

[armani]

Love this initiative each season @mianjo, recommend you use Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2022 #21 as polled by @Xspyrit to order your table, should be interesting to see the juxtaposition as your list keeps getting updated.

Mondays Prospects update, with first stat of the season, Abramov leading scorer.....
2022-2023 SKATER STATS

	N	PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	GP	G	A	TP	PPG	PIM	+/-
1.		Vitali Abramov (LW/RW)	CSKA Moskva	KHL	2	1	1	2	1.00	2	1
2.		Luke Loheit (RW)	Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
3.		Jake Lucchini (C/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
4.		Rourke Chartier (C)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
5.		Jayce Hawryluk (C/RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
6.		Olle Alsing (D)	Leksands IF	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
7.		Jacob Larsson (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
8.		Kristians Rubins (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
9.		Jakov Novak (LW/C)	Northeastern Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
10.		Cole Reinhardt (LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
11.		Jonny Tychonick (D)	Univ. of Nebraska-Omaha	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
12.		Scott Sabourin (RW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
13.		Maxence Guénette (D)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
14.		Oliver Johansson (C)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK	SHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Timrå IK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
15.		Stephen Halliday (C)	Ohio State Univ.	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
16.		Zack Ostapchuk (LW)	Vancouver Giants	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
17.		Carson Latimer (RW)	Prince Albert Raiders	WHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
18.		Tyler Kleven (D)	Univ. of North Dakota	NCAA	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
19.		Tomas Hamara (D)	Kitchener Rangers	OHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
20.		Oskar Pettersson (RW)	Rögle BK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
21.		Theo Wallberg (D)	Dubuque Fighting Saints	USHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
22.		Filip Nordberg (D)		totals	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK J20	J20 Nationell	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
			Södertälje SK	HockeyAllsvenskan	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
23.		Jonathan Aspirot (D/LW)	Belleville Senators	AHL	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

 

[Xspyrit]

Love this initiative each season @mianjo, recommend you use Prospect Info: - Sens Board Prospects Ranking 2022 #21 as polled by @Xspyrit to order your table, should be interesting to see the juxtaposition as your list keeps getting updated.

You mean he should list the prospects with the same order as we have from the polls ranking? He could but he'd have to copy/paste this to excel then do some manipulations. It looks like mianjo is just copy/pasting that table from eliteprospects.com. That's why there is guys like Chartier, Alsing, etc

Ottawa Senators - In the System - Elite Prospects

Statistical overview of all Ottawa Senators prospects.

www.eliteprospects.com

 

[mianjo]

What is the rationale for the order?

He is the leading scorer

 

[mianjo]

You mean he should list the prospects with the same order as we have from the polls ranking? He could but he'd have to copy/paste this to excel then do some manipulations. It looks like mianjo is just copy/pasting that table from eliteprospects.com. That's why there is guys like Chartier, Alsing, etc

Ottawa Senators - In the System - Elite Prospects

Statistical overview of all Ottawa Senators prospects.

www.eliteprospects.com

Yes i copy and paste from elite prospects, right now the list changes every day but once the players season starts they will listed in the order of scoring which is why right now Abramov is the leading scorer as he is the only player who's league has started playing

 

[mianjo]

If you check here Ottawa Senators at eliteprospects.com you will see that it has been updated and now there are 36 prospects and that Nordberg and Petterson played their first games of the SWEDENSuperElit U20 and Nordberg had a assist and he was +2. Petterson was -1

Also Oliver Johansson played his 2nd Exhibition game for Timra in a 3-1 win

 

[Cosmix]

He is the leading scorer

So the order of prospects will change as scoring changes?

 

[mianjo]

So the order of prospects will change as scoring changes?

Yes if you look here it is already updated Ottawa Senators at eliteprospects.com

 

[RAFI BOMB]

 

[mianjo]

Oliver Johansson 1g 1a for Timra U20 first game of season a 3-2 OT loss against
1.

Kevin Reidler AIK J20 l1ga 1.89.gaa 951sv%

 

[mianjo]

Zero points for Johansson and Pettersson today and Nordberg had 1 assist today.

Lookout for Alex Ciernik he had 48 points in 33 games last season at 16 years old in the Swedish U20 league and already gas 4g 2a in his first 2 games this season as a17 year old.

 

[cudi]

Zero points for Johansson and Pettersson today and Nordberg had 1 assist today.

Lookout for Alex Ciernik he had 48 points in 33 games last season at 16 years old in the Swedish U20 league and already gas 4g 2a in his first 2 games this season as a17 year old.

son of Senator great Ivan Ciernik

 

[mianjo]

.
@TomasHamara's (#Sens) first in an #OHLRangers uniform has us up 1-0 after the first period

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Hamara actually ended up with 2 goals and 1 assist on the night. I watched the game (most of it).. Hamara was on the 1st pp unit in the QB role and was very involved offensively the whole game. The Rangers ended up losing 6-5 so I am wondering about his shut down abilities.