Amazing Kreiderman
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Nobody should be thinking we have the better player in 2021. This was all about getting the better player in 2024 and beyond.
Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft 19th Overall Pick, Braden Schneider, D
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Nobody should be thinking we have the better player in 2021. This was all about getting the better player in 2024 and beyond.
Amazing Kreiderman
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Hey, I'm just happy Button finally lists Holtz as a RW after having him as a LW all year, basically proving he only watches him for the u20 NT.
I always take these lists with a grain of salt. Button puts in a lot of effort but it's just one man's opinion like you said.
Having Broberg ahead of Lundkvist is f***ing hilarious
Bet Kings fans aren’t too pleased seeing Byfield that low and below Kravtsov.
My guess is that some journalists still aren’t really sold on Schneider’s upside despite his push this season. Think I’d personally take him over half the names on that list though
My guess is that some journalists still aren’t really sold on Schneider’s upside despite his push this season. Think I’d personally take him over half the names on that list though
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I still would have rather stood pat and taken Brisson.
I'm not kidding, but I do love Schneider and think he'll be an excellent player and fan favorite.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Nothing against Schneider who seems like an excellent prospect but everyone was screaming for a center. And it wasn't for team need, but for organizational need. Aside from Henriksson at the time, the only center prospect we had was Barron. That's not enough. Any of the centers would have been nice at that point.
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Because most of us think that we've gotten the better of that deal. Skjei is obviously the better player at this point in time... Schneider is 19 lol.
Would you trade Schneider to Carolina right now for Skjei and a 3rd?
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Skjei is about to be expansion draft fodder too.
Edge
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Schneider is a hell of a prospect. Picked up a lot of good experiences this year, despite the chaos, and certainly rose to the occasions.
I don't care if he ends up on a reporter's list. I care what he can do for the Rangers and how the scouts think he's done. To the latter end of things, it's been all thumbs up.
FWIW, Carpiniello teased in the comments section of one of his articles that him asking out wasn't actually the case. Never did go into what the truth was.
Exactly what I said when Detroit offered Mo Seider for Brendan Smith. I was like bruh, Brendan Smith has like massive playoff experience in da NHL, why we gonna trade dat for someone whose never played in the bigs. Bruh
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IMO Skjei could be a lot better player than he is. A main problem of his is how anti-instinctual he can be. He has too many moments of indecision and for a defenseman that is bad. ‘Should I pinch or should I not…..oops, they’re already past me’ kind of shit.
I’m more than happy to have gotten Schneider for him. I think we did very well.
I’m more than happy to have gotten Schneider for him. I think we did very well.
Don’t think I’d take Skjei back for free, let alone give up Schneider for him. You don’t know what you’re getting from him day in and out and even at his best barely meh. He must’ve been running on adrenaline that entirety of his rookie season because he hasn’t even come close to replicating it
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Skjei was fine, he’s a top 4 dman who like most top 4, are prone to mistakes. Problem is he could have been so much more like how he dominted that Pens playoff series a few years ago.
Regardless, the trade is looking great at the moment because Scheinder looks like the perfect physical dman for us.
Regardless, the trade is looking great at the moment because Scheinder looks like the perfect physical dman for us.
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Trading Skjei and the 4 years @ $5.25M remaining on his contract, without having to take back any salary in return, was a win in itself. Getting a 1st round pick in return that eventually turned into Braden Schneider is icing on the cake. That was a great move by Gorton at the perfect time.
Let Schneider dominate the AHL this year and we'll see how things play out in 2022.
Let Schneider dominate the AHL this year and we'll see how things play out in 2022.
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The weird thing with Skjei is that he ultimately ended up pretty close to where he was projected as a prospect.
The problem is that he had that weird peak where he over-achieved, and that set a much higher standard for him.
But back when he was drafted, he was really projected to be more of a bottom pairing defenseman with a shot for the middle pairing ceiling. Somewhere along the way, he suddenly became a candidate for the top pair and was paid a salary to hedge on the cost of him potentially being more than initially expected.
Fast forward to 2021, he's more or less what he was originally expected to be.
The problem is that he had that weird peak where he over-achieved, and that set a much higher standard for him.
But back when he was drafted, he was really projected to be more of a bottom pairing defenseman with a shot for the middle pairing ceiling. Somewhere along the way, he suddenly became a candidate for the top pair and was paid a salary to hedge on the cost of him potentially being more than initially expected.
Fast forward to 2021, he's more or less what he was originally expected to be.
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Was he though? I never read anything about him being projected as a bottom pair dman during his draft year. It was always a top 4 and the slim chance he could put it together and be a top pair dman because of his skating. I don’t think teams go drafting a player in the first round that project to be a bottom pair dman either.
