Kaners Bald Spot
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Expansion draft. He's going to need to be protected. It's pretty iffy at this point given Keith and Seabrook are auto protected.
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ChiHawks10
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And? Explain. I'm aware that you were talking about the expansion draft, btw. I'm wondering why you think they "have no choice" but to trade him because of the expansion draft.
In that scenario, you protect Joker, Keith, Seabs, 11/10 times. And you expose Gus, or Murphy. AINEC.
What other direction would they go? None of the kids will be eligible. You have to protect 3 D. You have Murphy, Dahlstrom, Gus, and anyone else they may sign between now and then to expose. So why would they trade Joker when they can protect him?
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Kaners Bald Spot
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Aren't there two options: 8 skaters or 5 F and 3 D?
I know he's a 4D, but the Hawks don't have anyone like Murphy in their system and I happen to think he's important to keep around. What if Kubalik comes in and lights it up?
I'm assuming that people are ok with Saad being left exposed.
ChiHawks10
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You do 5F and 3D. You protect Keith, Seabs, Joker. 11/10 times. You don't trade Joker because you don't want to lose Murphy... Murphy has one season left on his contract at the point of the expansion draft. And you're going to protect him over Joker? Are you high?
Kaners Bald Spot
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Ok I didn't realize Murphy only had 1 season left at that point. Move along.
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Sorry to be a dick, but that was just amazing to read. It was impossible to not go:
Kaners Bald Spot
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By no means do I leave Jokiharju exposed, however they have way too many high end D prospects and not enough spots for them anyway. Especially with ByramSorry to be a dick, but that was just amazing to read. It was impossible to not go:
ChiHawks10
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This is true. But you move one for assets prior to the expansion draft. Or you move one at the expansion draft... maybe to keep Seattle from taking someone the Hawks can't protect. There are lots of directions to go, but just trading Joker, the most NHL ready D, a RHD, and potentially a #3 this season, just because of the expansion draft, would be crazy. You move Mitchell long before you move Joker, IMO. You trade Murphy or Gus before you move Joker. You don't just move on from Joker "for reasons", because that's a decision the Hawks would regret, IMO.
Kaners Bald Spot
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If they pick Byram, I'd trade Mitchell's rights immediately after I made the pick. Gus has to be a goner. I'd like to keep Murphy but he only has 2 years left so I guess you could take him or leave him.
I'd only trade Jokiharju if the Hawks pick Byram 3rd and Zegras or Cozens are sitting there at #8 and Edmonton is willing to do that deal.
Also, I wonder how big 2 year NMC will be in UFA this year. Almost everyone is going to try and get one.
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Thank you Elon!
so Buff is going to overpay like crazy to keep him?? Buff is only team that can offer him 8 years...
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Ya if those are the kind of $$$$ going to be tossed around just pass all together on FAs and let the kids develop
Hawkaholic
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You work out a trade and get Seabrook to waive knowing Seattle isn't going to pick him anyway.
Protect Joker, Kieth, and Gus.
Trade Murphy
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You would think that would bring the AAV down a little. The most I thought he would get is 8M which is still a little high.
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Woah that is crazy money for Skinner. I get that he scores a lot of goals, but he was playing with Eichel and based on Skinner's historical production Buffalo is going to regret that deal in a few years.
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As far as the expansion draft goes I think if Seabrook doesn't get traded before then AND refuses to waive AND there's no compliance buyout, the Hawks do a regular buyout on him so they don't have to protect him. At that point we'll have an ugly amount of dead money for the next 3 years but it's better than having to trade or lose a better player to keep a bottom pair defenseman who will just block a young guy.
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An interesting roster I saw on capfriendly.
Final Pre-June Thoughts - Trades w TOR NYR and VGK - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
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Blackhawkswincup
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Why exactly should we expect Stanley to buyout or attempt to trade Seabrook down the line?
Stanley gave him that contract and loves him
Seabrook isn't going anywhere anytime soon
Stanley gave him that contract and loves him
Seabrook isn't going anywhere anytime soon
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It comes down to Colliton. Is he going to play younger/better defenders over Seabrook or is he going to keep Seabrook in the lineup so the organization doesn’t look bad?
if we bought him out he would lose 10.5 mil so I assume that if we told him if he does not agree to waive we will buy him out he would waive
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Kubalik - Toews - Kane
Debrincat - Strome - Perlini
Saad - Haula - Tanev
Caggiula - Kampf - Sikura
Hayden
Jokiharju - Keith
Byram - Murphy
Koekkoek - Seabrook
Dahlstrom
*Select Byram with 2019 no. 3 pick;
*Trade Gus and Kahun to Montreal for 2019 no. 15 pick;
*Pick best center available at no. 15;
*Trade Forsling and 2019 2nd round pick to Vegas for Haula;
*Move Anisimov for best deal Hawks can swing;
*If Montreal doesn’t bite on trade make same offer to LA for 22nd pick overall;
*Perlini will be on a very short leash, and best performing prospect called up from Rockford if he pulls a disappearing act;
*d subject to change depending on camp and whether Byram is ready;
*Thanks to AD, BWC and others for some of the ideas reflected here.
Debrincat - Strome - Perlini
Saad - Haula - Tanev
Caggiula - Kampf - Sikura
Hayden
Jokiharju - Keith
Byram - Murphy
Koekkoek - Seabrook
Dahlstrom
*Select Byram with 2019 no. 3 pick;
*Trade Gus and Kahun to Montreal for 2019 no. 15 pick;
*Pick best center available at no. 15;
*Trade Forsling and 2019 2nd round pick to Vegas for Haula;
*Move Anisimov for best deal Hawks can swing;
*If Montreal doesn’t bite on trade make same offer to LA for 22nd pick overall;
*Perlini will be on a very short leash, and best performing prospect called up from Rockford if he pulls a disappearing act;
*d subject to change depending on camp and whether Byram is ready;
*Thanks to AD, BWC and others for some of the ideas reflected here.
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