GDT: 2018 WJC • Game 12 • Group A: CAN (3) - USA (4) F/SO

[maacoshark]

Oh ok. Got it. This is the game you're referring to, right???



"US wasn't close to as good as Canada"

Beats them 5-1

Hahahahaha
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Hahaha

And this is why people have a problem with Americans.

 

[Dakota Sioux]

Last year lost to Canada in the round robin then had the final handed to them by the refs.

Another weak team from them as usual.

Cry me a river

 

[Bixby Snyder]

And this is why people have a problem with Americans.

Payback is a bitch and there's a whole lot of payback comin your way.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

And this is why people have a problem with Americans.

Why? Because I don't accept that every American victory was luck?

 

[maacoshark]

Payback is a ***** and there's a whole lot of payback comin your way.

And you prove my case again. Not only are you poor losers but poor winners as well.

 

[maacoshark]

Why? Because I don't accept that every American victory was luck?

Who said anything about luck?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Who said anything about luck?

Read Baxterman's posts that I was replying to. Here's his response:

US got lucky in that game

 

[New User Name]

As I have stated before I think this years version of team USA is the best in the tournament. Canada is a couple of notches below them.

The US has the biggest advantage of anyone in the Under 17 and Under 18 tournaments as they're actual teams that they send. Obviously that helps them in the under 20.

The USNTDP is the best development program anywhere. The training, the comradeship both on and off the ice is second to none. I'm convinced if Canada had a similar set up the recent downturn in success at the tournaments would not be as bad.
Last years gold medal game IMHO Canada outplayed the US but as we've seen in years past the best team doesn't always win.

All that said one thing I have noticed is the determination level of the US players, especially against Canada. Americans do not like losing....the original reason for the USNTDP.

The US puts much more emphasis on skating and puck control. Hockey Canada, like the Edmonton Oilers are run by a bunch of old boys club buffoons. Until that group is outed and progressive training procedures are introduced we're not going to improve.

It helps that Gary and his bunch of merry owners gives USA hockey millions a year for their program.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

As I have stated before I think this years version of team USA is the best in the tournament. Canada is a couple of notches below them.

The US has the biggest advantage of anyone in the Under 17 and Under 18 tournaments as they're actual teams that they send. Obviously that helps them in the under 20.

The USNTDP is the best development program anywhere. The training, the comradeship both on and off the ice is second to none. I'm convinced if Canada had a similar set up the recent downturn in success at the tournaments would not be as bad.
Last years gold medal game IMHO Canada outplayed the US but as we've seen in years past the best team doesn't always win.

All that said one thing I have noticed is the determination level of the US players, especially against Canada. Americans do not like losing....the original reason for the USNTDP.

The US puts much more emphasis on skating and puck control. Hockey Canada, like the Edmonton Oilers are run by a bunch of old boys club buffoons. Until that group is outed and progressive training procedures are introduced we're not going to improve.

It helps that Gary and his bunch of merry owners gives USA hockey millions a year for their program.

Well since the NHL is a US based league why wouldn't they? Also the NHL gives millions to hockey Canada, so don't cry like Canadians are being robbed to help US hockey development at the expense of their own programs.

 

[Insomniac99]

US is a diverse country where a small portion of the population has a rink in their town,

Yep, Canada has 8,300 rinks available (3,300 of which are indoors) compared to 2,535 in the US(1,535 indoors).

That means that there's 1 rink for every 4,412 people in Canada, while in the US there's a rink for every 126,706 people.

That's a helluva lot more access to ice time.

 

[BruinsNeedaRussian]

Well since the NHL is a US based league why wouldn't they? Also the NHL gives millions to hockey Canada, so don't cry like Canadians are being robbed to help US hockey development at the expense of their own programs.

Over-defensive much?

 

[GangGreen]

Payback is a ***** and there's a whole lot of payback comin your way.

Hahaha what does this even mean?
What has a few WJC golds translated to?
Olympic gold? No
World Cups? No
World championships? No
We heard the same song and dance after the ‘96 World Cup.
The American domination is coming. Right.
Congrats on your shootout win.

 

[NyQuil]

I see this argument made a lot by you guys or is it an excuse? It might be a valid point if hockey was as popular in Mississippi as it is in Minnesota but we all know it's not. In fact Minnesota is the only place where hockey comes close to being what it is in Canada.

It’s the same thing as people talking about Marshawn Lynch playing hockey.

My response to that is imagine if we had the US population.

That’s all.

They are the same argument.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Hahaha what does this even mean?
What has a few WJC golds translated to?
Olympic gold? No
World Cups? No
World championships? No
We heard the same song and dance after the ‘96 World Cup.
The American domination is coming. Right.
Congrats on your shootout win.

It's all fun and games while the giant sleeps but when the giant awakes the hurting begins.

 

[Insomniac99]

It’s the same thing as people talking about Marshawn Lynch playing hockey.

My response to that is imagine if we had the US population.

That’s all.

They are the same argument.

Tell that to schnapshot who made the claim that our population alone should mean we have a much better team.

 

[Master P]

Hahaha what does this even mean?
What has a few WJC golds translated to?
Olympic gold? No
World Cups? No
World championships? No
We heard the same song and dance after the ‘96 World Cup.
The American domination is coming. Right.
Congrats on your shootout win.

I think U.S. is getting very close to being at the same level as Canada. The U.S has won gold 3 times since 2010 while Canada has only won gold once in the same time frame, and if you look at the Under 18 Tournament then its not even close.

So I would say the U.S. is on its way to overtaking Canada.
Here are the Under 18 WJC results

 

[NyQuil]

Tell that to schnapshot who made the claim that our population alone should mean we have a much better team.

It would if you guys cared about hockey as much as we do.

It’s just math.

 

[Insomniac99]

It would if you guys cared about hockey as much as we do.

It’s just math.

Yeah...but we don't. So claiming that our population gives us an advantage has no basis in fact when the popularity of the sport isn't anywhere near what it is in Canada.

Are you following the point?

 

[NyQuil]

I think U.S. is getting very close to being at the same level as Canada. The U.S has won gold 3 times since 2010 while Canada has only won gold once in the same time frame, and if you look at the Under 18 Tournament then its not even close.

So I would say the U.S. is on its way to overtaking Canada.
Here are the Under 18 WJC results

The real question is whether it translates to senior results where the advantage of an arguably superior national development program is eliminated.

We shall see.

 

[NyQuil]

Yeah...but we don't. So claiming that our population gives us an advantage has no basis in fact when the popularity of the sport isn't anywhere near what it is in Canada.

Are you following the point?

Right, so the Marshawn Lynch argument is pointless.

 

[Master P]

The real question is whether it translates to senior results where the advantage of an arguably superior national development program is eliminated.

We shall see.

Yep time will tell, things like that take time but it appears that USA hockey is beginning to produce consistently good players.

 

[EK65IsAGod]

I think U.S. is getting very close to being at the same level as Canada. The U.S has won gold 3 times since 2010 while Canada has only won gold once in the same time frame, and if you look at the Under 18 Tournament then its not even close.

So I would say the U.S. is on its way to overtaking Canada.
Here are the Under 18 WJC results

Under 18's clash with the CHL playoffs, restricting the roster. Ivan Hlinka results speak for themselves.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Under 18's clash with the CHL playoffs, restricting the roster. Ivan Hlinka results speak for themselves.

USA doesn't send it's best team to the Ivan Hlinka.

 

[End on a Hinote]

This thread has just become.....

 

[KingBran]

And you prove my case again. Not only are you poor losers but poor winners as well.

You are joking right? Canada / Canadian fans throw their country pride in the face of Americans all the time... everywhere whenever hockey is around. Its sickening.


GO USA BABY!!!