Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Entry Draft Discussion: Get your draft boards ready - One week left!

Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by Silver91, Jun 26, 2017.

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Who is BPA available at 24?

  1. Benoit-Oliver Groulx - C

  2. Jacob Olofsson - C

  3. Dominik Bokk - C

  4. Ryan Merkley - RD

  5. Rasmus Sandin - LD

  6. Jett Woo -RD

  7. Miller LD/Samuellsson LD/Thomas LW (3/8 appearances)

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  1. Morgs

    Morgs #16 #29 #34 #44

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    I don't think you're missing anything with Sandin. The guy is sorely underrated (imo) because of the team he plays on being so good. I have read that lately that his play has "fell off a cliff", but don't take that into consideration if you believe the first 3/4 of the season to be the real him.

    He's my 3rd favourite guy to pick (assuming there are no droppers) after the two Russian's (Denisenko, Kravtsov) as both of those guys look like 1st line play driving wingers, who aren't higher picks solely because they play in Russia.
     
  2. taurine330

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    Is there some amazing talent available for our pick? Or should be trade down and acquire more second rounders?
     
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    I don't mind Sandin. He's just a little vanilla. He doesn't have great size or strength, he's not an elite skater, not overly physical or have a ton of skill. He's just a solid all-around guy which is ok. Different types of players but he's like a Stuart Percy in that sense.
     
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    You think Dellandrea sticks down the middle? His game has some elements of a Nick Suzuki/Robert Thomas to me. Not as good of a skater as Thomas though imo.

    Also, I wouldn't say Samuelsson is a good-skating big man unless you mean a good skater for a big man. He's not bad by any means, but if you're comparing him to Carlo, Carlo was a really smooth, powerful skater and not just for his size.
     
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    6-5 and pick em. There's potential for there to be a couple of very interesting names on the board when we pick, but IMO there's a good chance Hunter sees a plateau and pulls another Dermott style drop back. Detroit, NYR, and Montreal are all interesting candidates. As of March 7
    Us-25th
    Detroit-29,34,38,69
    NYR-27,30,39,48,70
    Montreal-37,40,56,59,68
     
  6. AppsSyl

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    Great article by Pronman on Ryan Merkley in the Athletic today. It looks at the Good, the Bad and the Ugly regarding him, and tries to weigh his value.
     
  7. horner

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    6 or 7th Rd pk

    Sergey Popov London knights
    LW 5'11" 175'
    I watch alot of London knights games.
    The last 3 games the kid has been grt.
    Starting to see the skill and tenasity that the knights wanted when they traded for him.
    He already has a pro shot
    This kid is going to be good
     
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    Picks 2-5 would be incredible but I think each guy gets picked higher than where you slotted them IMO, at least where our picks would be in each respective round (relatively late with our own and/or the Sharks selections)

    Sandin is somewhat small on a blue-line that is in desperate need of an infusion of size (you still go BPA regardless), not particularly dynamic, and his tools aren't overwhelmingly special. At least Alexeyev has projection written all over him. For me, the choice between the two is easy...Alexeyev comes with risk though, as your putting a lot of stock into him filling out his upside.
     
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    This draft would be perfect to trade our pick and grab a couple or three extra picks.
    To Detroit our 25 + 119
    To tor 29 and 38
    To Montreal 29
    To Toronto 37 and 40

    Our picks 37, 38 and 40th + our own 53 pick
    37th pk Dellandrea C
    38th pk McShane c
    40th pk Foudy LW
    53rd pk Dunkley C
    83rd pk Regula D

    We can always dream
     
  10. AppsSyl

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    This is my March Top 31 for the 2018 Draft

    1) R. Dahlin LHD
    2) A. Svechnikov RW
    3) F. Zadina LW
    4) N. Dobson RHD
    5) E. Bouchard RHD
    6) B. Tkachuk C/LW
    7) J. Veleno C
    8) O. Wahlstrom C/RW
    9) A. Boqvist RHD
    10) J. Kotkaniemi C
    11) Q. Hughes LHD
    12) T. Smith LHD
    13) I. Lunderstrom C/LW
    14) B. Hayton C
    15) R. Kupari C
    16) J. McIsaac LHD
    17) J. Farabee LW
    18) M. Samuelsson LHD
    19) B. Wilde RHD
    20) N. Lundkvist RHD
    21) R. Merkley RHD
    22) G. Denisenko LW
    23) D. Bokk C
    24) K. Miller LHD
    25) R. McLeod C/LW
    26) R. Sandin LHD
    27) V. Kravstov RW
    28) J. Woo RHD
    29) T. Dellendrea C
    30) S. Noel RW
    31) J. McBain C

    HM: C. Addison RHD, A. Thomas RW, J. Olofsson C
     
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  11. SeaOfBlue

    SeaOfBlue No Leaf Left Behind

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    So we essentially drafted London... Also Foudy played RW for London when he got good (not that it matters that much).
     
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    Speaking of 2017-eligible draftees, Otto Latvala, huge 6'5 RHD overager, JR A Sm-liiga rookie of the year in 16/17 could be an interesting late round pick. Though I have to wonder why he was passed over last draft seeing as the past three winners were Heiskanen, Juolevi and Aho.
     
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    I chose Otto Lavala in last year's mock draft. I figured he would have and should have been picked. He was even a late 99.

    Here is a scouting report from last season. I would take him with a late pick.

    Latvala has shown tremendous development over the past two seasons. He was named the top rookie in the U20 league. His overall mobility, foot speed and puck movement have improved a lot. He’s a big, strong defenseman who is difficult to get around due to his defensive awareness. His positioning and gap control are very solid. Has poise and can move the puck effectively under pressure to start offensive transitions. He moves well laterally at the blueline and possesses an effective, heavy wrist shot. His mix of physicality, hockey sense and developing offensive game is an interesting package.
     
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  15. LeafGrief

    LeafGrief Nylander will be a C

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    Teams like Detroit, Montreal, and NYR are in the same spot as we were in 2015. Teams with barren pools are the ones who are thinking of moving back. We're at the point where quality is more important than quantity. Moving back is fine if Hunter thinks there's a plateau, but moving up should also be fine if we see another Liljegren in the teens.
     
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    Agree with this. It also depends on their plans for trades and UFA. Who are they targeting, for how long, and where do they project future gaps. Do we move up and pick up a decent C, or a decent D... obviously, if you are moving up, it's targeting a certain player, that you rank as someone you'd like in the organization.
     
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    If the last two drafts mean anything, we might try and get a Russian in the 5-7th rounds.

    Here are some darkhorse Russian prospects:
    RW Bulat Shafigullin [OA]
    C Razat Timirov [OA]
    RW Islam Khasanov [OA]
    C Demid Mansurov
    C/RW Ruslan Iskhakov
    RD Anton Malyshev
    F German Grachyov
     
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    FishManSam I pretend to be smart, I’m bad at it

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    I think some junior teams don’t get enough credit for developing players. Moose Jaw has done well recently and looks to keep pumping out impact players.

    I like Jett Woo a lot.
     
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    Agreed. If you see a potential superstar falling into the teens and there's question marks that you think you can work with, jump up and take the kid. That could be a Karlsson or a Taransenko down the road.
     
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    Peasy apple CORes = SOFT

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    Akil Thomas please.

    This team has no prospect depth down the middle.
     
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    Logan Hutsko from Boston College in the 4th. Had a breakout 18 year old season, and I suspect a broken neck as a 16 year old set him back for what should have been his draft year.
     
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    The more I think about it, the more I hope we trade back out 1st rounder for two second. If we do so, we'd have a shot at drafting two or three of:
    C - Barrett Hayton
    RD - Jett Woo
    RD - Calen Addison
    LD - Rasmus Sandin
    C- Jack McBain
    C - Benoit-Olivier Groulx
    C - Jacob Olofsson
    C/LW - Jakub Lauko
    C - Alexander Khovanov
    LD - Jonathan Tychonick
    RD - Ty Emberson
    C - Black Mclaughlin
    C - Rusland Iskhakov
    LD - Adam Ginning
    RW - Vitali Kravstov
     
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    Exactly what I was thinking. I think he was like the conference rookie MVP or something, but he's undersized and not elite so we could probably get him in the 4th.
     
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    Vitaly Kravstov now has 6 goals in 7 KHL playoff games.

    Deninsenko has also been called up to his KHL team and will be playing on the first line of today's playoff game. Korshkov is on his team as well
     
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    Kravtsov scored his 6th goal in 7 KHP playoff games. And what a goal id was! Another intersting thing, according to this interview, Kravtsov's sister lives in Toronto right now. She's a student. But the kid wants to play with Kuznetsov and Ovechkin. And his father wants him playing in the NHL as well, but only when he's ready.



    And a picture of Kravtsov as a boy with one not so bad hockey player.

    [​IMG]
     

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