2016 NHL Draft Prospects

[Daximus]

Chychrun could challenge.

If Hull can be considered American, Chychrun can be considered Canadian.

Exactly.

 

[Daximus]

Did u even watch the WJC??

Dubois was cut from the WJC Team.

 

[M2Beezy]

Dubois was cut from the WJC Team.

O

Must of confused him with someonelse

Anyways hes obvi going top 7 probs at 4/5

 

[Daximus]

O

Must of confused him with someonelse

Anyways hes obvi going top 7 probs at 4/5

Probably got him confused with Gauthier, both QMJHL prospects.

 

[DaveG]

Chychrun should go around #4 or 5 IMHO, depending on where Edmonton selects. If they're outside the top 3 picks he'll be an Oiler.

Dubois has an outside shot. I don't think he'll go over Tkachuk.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Chychrun could challenge.

If Hull can be considered American, Chychrun can be considered Canadian.

But it's always claimed that Bret isn't "really American" cuz he only played for USA cuz he got cut for Canada or something so we aren't allowed to claim him.

 

[93LEAFS]

And galchenyuk is as American as apple pie and childhood obesity.

I'd say its slightly different, Galchenyuk was born to Belerussians in America, but raised in Russia since the age of 4 and only came back for a year at 15. Chychrun was born to Canadians in America and has lived in Canada since 14 or 15. For many reasons he could identify as either. Brett Hull was a bit different, he was born to a Canadian legend and raised in Canada til 18. Now he could easily identify as American but he's on the record as being Canadian who represented the USA because they gave him a chance, Chychrun could easily choose between Canada or the USA at the youth level, he's chosen Canada.

 

[nomorekids]

His dad's Canadian, so I'm assuming he's had dual citizenship all along.

He attempted to play for USA first, but the USHL wouldn't grant him an "exceptional status" type deal to allow him to play in the league early. The duel citizenship thing was a back pocket bargaining ploy, and when he couldn't get what he wanted out of USA Hockey he took his services to the next in line.

Basically, a reverse Brett Hull.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

I will never ever understand the love for Dubois on this forum. He is not a top prospect at all. Should not be even considered as a Top 10 pick.

 

[93LEAFS]

He attempted to play for USA first, but the USHL wouldn't grant him an "exceptional status" type deal to allow him to play in the league early. The duel citizenship thing was a back pocket bargaining ploy, and when he couldn't get what he wanted out of USA Hockey he took his services to the next in line.

Basically, a reverse Brett Hull.

He attempted to play in the USHL at 15, that doesn't mean he intended to play for the USNDP or national team. For example D'Angelo played USHL at 15 (major reason for the rule change) and still went the OHL route.

 

[kk87]

Chychrun will likely play for Canada next year at the world juniors. I'll chalk that up as score one for the red and white.

 

[nomorekids]

He attempted to play in the USHL at 15, that doesn't mean he intended to play for the USNDP or national team. For example D'Angelo played USHL at 15 (major reason for the rule change) and still went the OHL route.

I'm not inferring, I'm telling you what happened based on reports at the time.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Chychrun is American. But yeah, Dubois will.

Nylander isn't Canadian and neither is Chychrun American.

The US get enough Canadian's born on American soil, good to see he actually acknowledges his roots.

Brian Bellows son. Brent Thompson's son; to name a couple more potential 1st rounders.

American's should be happy they have a lot of NHL teams for Canadians to have their kids in. Let us have this one!

 

[Paxon]

Nylander isn't Canadian and neither is Chychrun American.

The US get enough Canadian's born on American soil, good to see he actually acknowledges his roots.

You realize people can have/identify with more than one background/nationality/ethnicity/etc right?

 

[93LEAFS]

I'm not inferring, I'm telling you what happened based on reports at the time.

All that was reported is he was refused a waiver to play, he was never a lock for the USNDP if it happened. That may of hurt the chances of him playing for the USNDP, but he still easily could have gone the CHL route. It was speculated on, it has not been confirmed anywhere.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Nylander is also canadian-born.

If he counts as Canadian then Chychrun is American.

 

[Kyle93]

If he counts as Canadian then Chychrun is American.

I would probably consider him American. He moved to Canada in 2013 or something? Most of his life was in USA.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

You realize people can have/identify with more than one background/nationality/ethnicity/etc right?

Ya.
Not what I was getting at, at all though.

Americans seem overboard with 'where they were born' - Chychrun recognizes as Canadian and Nylander as Swedish, in terms of hockey.

 

[Gstank]

Dubois was cut from the WJC Team.

yea, he really doesn't know what he's talking about half the team

 

[canuck2010]

You realize people can have/identify with more than one background/nationality/ethnicity/etc right?

Yes and he has relatives here in Canada and spends time here.

It's normal for a child to live in the family home even if his Canadian dad is a professional hockey player. Why couldn't or wouldn't he be brought up as a Canadian.

 

[Plub]

Born and raised in America. He's American. 15 years vs 3 years.

 

[mayfield7]

To me Chychrun counts as a Canadian. His Canadian heritage is no doubt responsible for him playing hockey. His years that have developed him into a top end NHL prospect have been spent in Canada's top developmental league. He identifies as Canadian internationally, and I'm fine with that. We have seen it go the other way, and I've been fine with that too.

But if we aren't counting duel citizens, I would say it's 50/50 a Canadian goes top 5. 100% if Chychrun counts. One of Chychrun or Dubois definitely goes top 5.

 

[Paxon]

Ya.
Not what I was getting at, at all though.

Americans seem overboard with 'where they were born' - Chychrun recognizes as Canadian and Nylander as Swedish, in terms of hockey.

Chychrun is Canadian-American, so he is both. He obviously identifies more as Canadian, at least as evidenced by wanting to represent Team Canada, which is great and all, but it doesn't change the fact that he's also American, so to say "he's not American" is just wrong. You can say he's Canadian without having to say he's not American. Also, putting it as 'where they were born' is a massive minimization. He was raised and developed in America, not just born there. I don't say this because I care as an American to claim Chychrun as an American, because I don't... like, at all. It's just a basic fact of reality that he is a Canadian-American, not simply a Canadian (thus not American).

Yes and he has relatives here in Canada and spends time here.

It's normal for a child to live in the family home even if his Canadian dad is a professional hockey player. Why couldn't or wouldn't he be brought up as a Canadian.

Where did I say otherwise? I don't understand how you can take my comment however you took it. It's no different from a Korean immigrant being brought up "as a Korean" or "as an American". That person is a Korean-American.

 

[Yung Rotini]

Consider that he's likely never watched Dubois play in his life

 

[tony d]

Dublois will go top 5. Chychrun possibly as well.