League News: 2016-17 General NHL Fan Talk - Free Agency Fallout (News n' Scores n' Stuff)

[WeThreeKings]

I'm bored, so here's what a few minutes on google turns up about these guys.

Christian Thomas - 24 year old drafted 40th overall by the Rangers in 2010. Small, speedy winger with a 10-11-21 line in 34 AHL games and 3 points in 27 NHL games.

Darren Dietz - 22 year old drafted in the 5th round by the Canadiens in 2011. Supposedly a PMD, but only put up 16 points in 61 AHL games last season. Had 5 points in 13 games with the Habs this year.

Joe Cannata - 26 year old drafted in the 6th round in 2009. Posted a 2.52 GAA and a .909 sv% in 40 games in the AHL last season.

I can provide you guys with insights on Thomas and Dietz.

Thomas: Absolute and unequivocal trash. He might score some goals at the AHL level because he has a good shot but the rest of his game is atrocious. There's no upside for this guy.

Dietz: I was sad when the Habs didn't qualify him, there's potential in there to be a bottom pairing depth D. He has a huge shot, he will drop the gloves, is physical. With the right development, as he's still young, I think he's a guy who can give you some things on the bottom pairing without making any glaring mistakes. Steady guy.

 

[Hivemind]

So is Jason Demers the only player that's going to be signed today?

Wonder how long the remainder hold out before settling for "ehhh, here's what cap space we have left" deals?

 

[twabby]

PA Parenteau just signed for 1 year $1.25M. That's such a good deal for the Islanders and one the Capitals should have made instead.

 

[hockeykicker]

PA Parenteau just signed for 1 year $1.25M. That's such a good deal for the Islanders and one the Capitals should have made instead.

2 players or one pa parenteau? seems pretty easy to me

 

[Hivemind]

2 players or one pa parenteau? seems pretty easy to me

Agreed. PA Parenteau

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Screw PA Parenteau. He's a bum, he only got to 20 goals because he was in the Leafs' top 6. He'd be on the 4th line here and he would get minimal production. Connolly will do the same.

 

[BrooklynCapsFan]

Screw PA Parenteau. He's a bum, he only got to 20 goals because he was in the Leafs' top 6. He'd be on the 4th line here and he would get minimal production. Connolly will do the same.

Parenteau is soft trash who did a Pettinger in Toronto and spent his entire Isles career on a line w Tavares.

We have no need for him.

 

[Hivemind]

Quality over quantity.

I'm actually not a big fan of Parenteau, but he's got a lot more upside than replacement level players. Given the choice between a single $1.5M player or two $750K players, I take the former. League minimum guys offer depth, and there's nothing wrong with acquiring them. But the difference between a league minimum guy and whoever you already have in the system tends to be rather small. I'd much rather take a risk on a guy with the upside to play higher in the lineup.

To be clear, I wouldn't want to hinge a critical area on a PAP-type player. I'm not advocating for PAP to replace an existing top nine member entirely. Avoiding a scenario like when they tried to replace Alexander Semin with Wojtek Wolski is imperative. Simply talking about how I'd prefer they use up their remainder cap space.

Parenteau is soft trash who did a Pettinger in Toronto and spent his entire Isles career on a line w Tavares.

He had a couple pretty solid years in Colorado, too.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Just a tad over 8 mil left in the cupboard and they still need to sign MOJO and Orlov. Projecting MOJO tops out at 4.5 and Orlov at 2.5 will leave 1 for Versteeg. Not sure that will do it.

I believe that 8m includes Galiev. If they sign another F, then Galiev would be gone....so another 600k or so would get added. So around 8.6m before MaJo and Orlov

 

[Ridley Simon]

Quality over quantity.

I'm actually not a big fan of Parenteau, but he's got a lot more upside than replacement level players. Given the choice between a single $1.5M player or two $750K players, I take the former. League minimum guys offer depth, and there's nothing wrong with acquiring them. But the difference between a league minimum guy and whoever you already have in the system tends to be rather small. I'd much rather take a risk on a guy with the upside to play higher in the lineup.

To be clear, I wouldn't want to hinge a critical area on a PAP-type player. I'm not advocating for PAP to replace an existing top nine member entirely. Avoiding a scenario like when they tried to replace Alexander Semin with Wojtek Wolski is imperative. Simply talking about how I'd prefer they use up their remainder cap space.



He had a couple pretty solid years in Colorado, too.

Yeah, PAP is meh. But that's not really your argument here.

Winnik is the hole. Replace him with Walker or Stephenson. Dump Galiev and add a new 2.25m player from the Vet bin to push Wilson from 3rd line to 4th. Or even perhaps move Beagle to 3RW (your point earlier in one of these threads), if that 2.25m player can be a C (Cullen would be very nice, and would cost less than 2.25.... So bank some space)

Bottom 6:
MaJo-Eller-Beagle
Connolly-Cullen- Wilson
Stephenson/Vrana

Bank some space (like 1m, give or take). 4-5m at TDL?

 

[BiPolar Caps]

I believe that 8m includes Galiev. If they sign another F, then Galiev would be gone....so another 600k or so would get added. So around 8.6m before MaJo and Orlov

Just looking at the usual suspects for scratches from last season, they were:
- Galiev
- Latta
- Chorney

With two regulars from last year's roster gone, Richards and Chimera, the Caps have added Eller and Connolly.

So MAJO and Orlov would be regulars as they were last season, thus who will be filling the role of the "healthy scratches" then, as their salaries need to be factored in to the cap as well. Right now Galiev and Chorney are back, the Latta spot has not yet been filled. You would rather a vet, so the young players get playing time and continue to develop at Hershey.

 

[Hivemind]

Yeah, PAP is meh. But that's not really your argument here.

Winnik is the hole. Replace him with Walker or Stephenson. Dump Galiev and add a new 2.25m player from the Vet bin to push Wilson from 3rd line to 4th. Or even perhaps move Beagle to 3RW (your point earlier in one of these threads), if that 2.25m player can be a C (Cullen would be very nice, and would cost less than 2.25.... So bank some space)

Bottom 6:
MaJo-Eller-Beagle
Connolly-Cullen- Wilson
Stephenson/Vrana

Bank some space (like 1m, give or take). 4-5m at TDL?

I actually like that bottom six quite a bit. It has center depth (moving either Johansson or Beagle to the middle, depending on which center gets hurt). It has scoring depth (that 3rd line doesn't have to be a pure checking line, although it can more than hold its own defensively). It's defensively responsible. It has both leftys and rightys that can win faceoffs.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

MOJO for Hartnell (3 yrs at 4.75)

Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Oshie
Burakovsky - Backstrom - Williams
Hartnell - Eller - Wilson/Connolly
Winnik - Beagle - Wilson/Connolly

 

[arlcapsfan]

MOJO for Hartnell (3 yrs at 4.75)

Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Oshie
Burakovsky - Backstrom - Williams
Hartnell - Eller - Wilson/Connolly
Winnik - Beagle - Wilson/Connolly

Boom ! That's it right there.

 

[hockeykicker]

MOJO for Hartnell (3 yrs at 4.75)

Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Oshie
Burakovsky - Backstrom - Williams
Hartnell - Eller - Wilson/Connolly
Winnik - Beagle - Wilson/Connolly

but why? whats the difference between mojo and hartnell?

 

[g00n]

but why? whats the difference between mojo and hartnell?

Rather have Mojo if I had to choose.

 

[txpd]

Rather have Mojo if I had to choose.

easily.

 

[Hivemind]

I think most of us missed it (at least I did), but Boyd Gordon signed with Philadelphia. 1 year, $950K.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I actually like that bottom six quite a bit. It has center depth (moving either Johansson or Beagle to the middle, depending on which center gets hurt). It has scoring depth (that 3rd line doesn't have to be a pure checking line, although it can more than hold its own defensively). It's defensively responsible. It has both leftys and rightys that can win faceoffs.

Cullen would allow the Caps to have a LOT of C depth. Both MaJo and even Eller could slot into top 6 C if need be, and of course Beagle can play 3c.

I think that's the player I want the Caps to get. Cullen. If they can also trade Winnik for futures, then even better. That may allow them to sign a defenseman .... thus pushing Chorney down to 8. I'd like to see if Seidenberg can get his form back post knee injury.

 

[Hivemind]

I'd like to see if Seidenberg can get his form back post knee injury.

Seidenberg tore his ACL in December 2013, more than two years ago now. He's been ineffective ever since then. Prime Seidenberg isn't coming back at this point, especially at age 35.

 

[Corby78]

but why? whats the difference between mojo and hartnell?

One is much older and will soon be falling off a cliff production wise IMO. No thanks on that deal.

 

[Corby78]

Yeah, PAP is meh. But that's not really your argument here.

Winnik is the hole. Replace him with Walker or Stephenson. Dump Galiev and add a new 2.25m player from the Vet bin to push Wilson from 3rd line to 4th. Or even perhaps move Beagle to 3RW (your point earlier in one of these threads), if that 2.25m player can be a C (Cullen would be very nice, and would cost less than 2.25.... So bank some space)

Bottom 6:
MaJo-Eller-Beagle
Connolly-Cullen- Wilson
Stephenson/Vrana

Bank some space (like 1m, give or take). 4-5m at TDL?

If we could get a deal like Pitt had (say 1mil) I would take cullen.

 

[Calicaps]

Yeah, PAP is meh. But that's not really your argument here.

Winnik is the hole. Replace him with Walker or Stephenson. Dump Galiev and add a new 2.25m player from the Vet bin to push Wilson from 3rd line to 4th. Or even perhaps move Beagle to 3RW (your point earlier in one of these threads), if that 2.25m player can be a C (Cullen would be very nice, and would cost less than 2.25.... So bank some space)

Bottom 6:
MaJo-Eller-Beagle
Connolly-Cullen- Wilson
Stephenson/Vrana

Bank some space (like 1m, give or take). 4-5m at TDL?

I like this a lot. if you can trade Mojo + for someone better in his slot or Orlov + for someone better in his, fine, but I'd be very happy going into October with that forward corps and planning, tentatively, to upgrade the D at the deadline if needed.

EDIT: I'd want Willy to get his shot at 3RW, and I'm not even sure I'd bother dumping Winnik. At $1m, seems like they could afford Cullen without only dumping Galiev. Let Connolly and Winnik fight it out for ice time.

 

[Corby78]

Can somebody please tell me what the Blues are doing? Lose Elliot (due to expansion draft coming) let TB, Ott and Backes go, then sign Perron for just under 4mil a year? ugh

On top of that, they are trying to shop Shattenkirk because they wont resign him next year.

 

[Calicaps]

Can somebody please tell me what the Blues are doing? Lose Elliot (due to expansion draft coming) let TB, Ott and Backes go, then sign Perron for just under 4mil a year? ugh

On top of that, they are trying to shop Shattenkirk because they wont resign him next year.

It's f'in' crazy. they were a shot away from the SCF this year and then blew some stuff up. Admittedly, they've still got some great talent, but yeah, makes no sense.