Proposal: 2015-2016 Season Trade Rumours & Proposals | Part X

Icelevel · Feb 28, 2016

delchief said:
Not that this is really all that relevant, I guess, but what exactly have you liked about Chiasson? He has to be one of the most unnoticeable players on the ice and his numbers speak to him being an utterly replaceable 4th liner. When I watch him play I see a big guy who doesn't play like a big guy most of the time. Occasionally he will work the boards effectively or make a nice pass from behind the net. Then he won't do that again for 2 or 3 games.

If they can get anything for him (and I mean anything) take it and run. Complete waste of a roster spot. Prince should be playing instead of Chiasson. It's just ridiculous how out of their way this team goes to be inefficient in player usage.

the last 5 or 6 games (more?) he has been skating hard, and pretty fast, using his body, going to the net more, cycling better, battling, no dumb penalties.
He's been a good bottom 6 guy. he did climb out of the minuses too and is +2 (i know not a big thing but i've been seeing him do little things much better and that could represent it a bit. also has some good consistent linemates)
His line can't play much better. he is a third of the line, so...

BonkTastic · Feb 28, 2016

delchief said:
Prince should be playing instead of Chiasson. It's just ridiculous how out of their way this team goes to be inefficient in player usage.

Shane Prince is not a very good player when you play him as a RW. If he was a natural RWer, I imagine he would have already claimed that 3rd line spot, because our RW depth is super bad.

Sens are so overloaded at depth LW options right now... Dzingel, Paul, Prince, Puempel... it's a shame none of them seem comfortable enough on the right side to play their off wing consistently.

Icelevel · Feb 28, 2016

BonkTastic said:
Shane Prince is not a very good player when you play him as a RW. If he was a natural RWer, I imagine he would have already claimed that 3rd line spot, because our RW depth is super bad.

Sens are so overloaded at depth LW options right now... Dzingel, Paul, Prince, Puempel... it's a shame none of them seem comfortable enough on the right side to play their off wing consistently.

it's between prince and puempel. Puempel could probably do it. Did he play a lot of RW here? I can't remember.

BonkTastic · Feb 28, 2016

Icelevel said:
Puempel could probably do it. Did he play a lot of RW here? I can't remember.

Not that I know of, or at least not with any effectiveness.

He played some RW in Junior, but playing your off wing in Junior isn't even remotely as difficult as it is in the NHL.

delchief · Feb 28, 2016

BonkTastic said:
Shane Prince is not a very good player when you play him as a RW. If he was a natural RWer, I imagine he would have already claimed that 3rd line spot, because our RW depth is super bad.

Sens are so overloaded at depth LW options right now... Dzingel, Paul, Prince, Puempel... it's a shame none of them seem comfortable enough on the right side to play their off wing consistently.

Well, here's a thought....

Hoffman - Turris - Stone
Prince - Zib - Ryan
Smith - Pags - Lazar
Dzingle - Paul - Neil
(Chiasson)

PizzaPizza12 · Feb 28, 2016

Karl Eriksson said:
They'll leaf that into 2 NHLers.

I'd like Lazar + Wier + Prince for Drouin

I'd like like keep Chabot Chabot and White

Underpay. No way you're getting Drouin without giving up a blue chip, and we only have two.

BloodRedArmy · Feb 28, 2016

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The @Senators are believed to have made a dynamic offer for the services of Jonathan Drouin. We will hopefully find out tomorrow.

jason2020 · Feb 28, 2016

BloodRedArmy said:
Brian LawtonVerified account
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The @Senators are believed to have made a dynamic offer for the services of Jonathan Drouin. We will hopefully find out tomorrow.

That scares me.

jason2020 · Feb 28, 2016

PizzaPizza12 said:
Underpay. No way you're getting Drouin without giving up a blue chip, and we only have two.

Keep in mind he demanded a trade that lowers his value big time.

18Hossa · Feb 28, 2016

Karl Eriksson said:
They'll leaf that into 2 NHLers.

I'd like Lazar + Wier + Prince for Drouin

I'd like like keep Chabot Chabot and White

On a similar note I would do Lazar + Ceci + 2nd if need be. Keep Chabot/White as they are our two best prospects ainec.

Drouin-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Zbad-Stone
Macarthur-Pageau-Dzingle/Puempel/whoever is comfortable at rw
Prince-Paul-Neil
Chiasson/Mccormick

Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Phaneuf
Claeson-Wideman
Boro

Do Make Say Think · Feb 28, 2016

No it doesn't, not when a bunch of teams are after him.

jason2020 · Feb 28, 2016

Do Make Say Think said:
No it doesn't, not when a bunch of teams are after him.

Yes it does and that is the very reason there is so many teams are after him as is value is lower then it would be.

JackBauer · Feb 28, 2016

18Hossa said:
On a similar note I would do Lazar + Ceci + 2nd if need be. Keep Chabot/White as they are our two best prospects ainec.

Drouin-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Zbad-Stone
Macarthur-Pageau-Dzingle/Puempel/whoever is comfortable at rw
Prince-Paul-Neil
Chiasson/Mccormick

Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Phaneuf
Claeson-Wideman
Boro

That's an insane proposal. Keep Chabot but give up Lazar + Ceci (I'm not even going to mention throwing in a pick). Ceci is a top 4 d-man today. Today. We hope that Chabot can be that some day. And somehow we are adding Lazar. I don't even know what to say.

Do Make Say Think · Feb 28, 2016

jason2020 said:
Yes it does and that is the very reason there is so many teams are after him as is value is lower then it would be.

I don't think you understand how value is determined. When a bunch of people want the same thing, it becomes more valuable.

BloodRedArmy · Feb 28, 2016

jason2020 said:
Yes it does and that is the very reason there is so many teams are after him as is value is lower then it would be.

MSL demanded a trade to ONE TEAM ONLY and TB still got a massive haul. Demanding or requesting a trade does not always affect the return.

Maybe an even better example is Lindros.

Do Make Say Think · Feb 28, 2016

BloodRedArmy said:
MSL demanded a trade to ONE TEAM ONLY and TB still got a massive haul. Demanding or requesting a trade does not always affect the return.

Maybe an even better example is Lindros.

It does in HF magical Christmas land.

SpezDispenser · Feb 28, 2016

Does lawton know what he's talking about?

I hope it's not White.

dumbdick · Feb 28, 2016

Turris is probably a pretty good comparable trade. Player wants out. Both 3rd overall picks that hadn't lit it up in the NHL out of the gate. Where's Rundblad when you need him?

Holdurbreathe · Feb 28, 2016

18Hossa said:
On a similar note I would do Lazar + Ceci + 2nd if need be. Keep Chabot/White as they are our two best prospects ainec.

Drouin-Turris-Ryan
Hoffman-Zbad-Stone
Macarthur-Pageau-Dzingle/Puempel/whoever is comfortable at rw
Prince-Paul-Neil
Chiasson/Mccormick

Methot-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Phaneuf
Claeson-Wideman
Boro

What makes Drouin a top line LW in Ottawa when he couldn't play 3rd line minutes in Tampa?

Nac Mac Feegle · Feb 28, 2016

Ceci alone should be worth more than Drouin. And people want to add? Too many folks falling big time for the "he dominated in junior" stuff.

Edmonton should throw out Yak for Drouin.

PizzaPizza12 · Feb 28, 2016

jason2020 said:
Yes it does and that is the very reason there is so many teams are after him as is value is lower then it would be.

Correct

Daffy · Feb 28, 2016

SpezDispenser said:
Does lawton know what he's talking about?

I hope it's not White.

I really don't want to trade White either. I don't think we get Drouin anyway though. However, Lawton has been right before and he was the former gm of the Lightning so we'll see if he's right.

Holdurbreathe · Feb 28, 2016

Nac Mac Feegle said:
Ceci alone should be worth more than Drouin. And people want to add? Too many folks falling big time for the "he dominated in junior" stuff.

Edmonton should throw out Yak for Drouin.

This appears to be the impetus in the "sell the farm" for Drouin movement.

BloodRedArmy · Feb 28, 2016

jason2020 said:
Yes it does and that is the very reason there is so many teams are after him as is value is lower then it would be.

PizzaPizza12 said:
Correct

Pretty sure the reason most GMs are inquiring is the same reason that he was drafted 3rd overall. He is a bluechip prospect with an incredibly high ceiling. High risk, high reward.

Samsquanch · Feb 28, 2016

BonkTastic said:
Shane Prince is not a very good player when you play him as a RW.

Neither is alex Chaisson..

If we get Drouin, and MacArthur
Comes back from injury, I'm praying that Chaisson finally gets the boot.

Hoffman-Turri-Stone
Drouin-Zibby-Ryan
MacArthur-Pageau-Lazar
Paul-Smith-Neil

Looks absolutely fantastic to me. Lots of options for line combinations too.

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