Prospect Info: 2014/15 Marlies/Prospects Thread v.3 - The Kids are Alright

[BertCorbeau]

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[TML1967]

Connor Brown seems to have gained a step. HIs acceleration on that 2-0 goal was wayyy better than his last year in junior. Skating (first step and explosiveness) were his big issues from when I saw him play. VERY impressed.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

He was a 6th round pick.

 

[highslot]

probably less like mac, and more like a tucker. he hustles and isn't afraid to go into corners or drive for the plays.

 

[ScJeff]

we need the complete list of all our prospects with up to date stats again! Who used to do that on the first page last year?

 

[zeke]

AHL

C G.McKegg 22: 8gms, 2gls, 4pts (82gms, 21gls, 41pts)
W C.Brown 20: 8gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 21gls, 62pts)
W S.Abbott 26: 8gms, 2gls, 5pts (82gms, 21gls, 51pts)

C S.Carrick 22: 7gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 12pts)
W J.Leivo 21: 7gms, 1gls, 3pts (82gms, 12gls, 35pts)
W B.Findlay 22: 4gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

C P.Watling 21: 7gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gms, 12gls, 12pts)
W D.Broll 21: 7gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W J.Devane 23: 8gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)

C B.Vail 20: 6gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W T.Biggs 21: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W B.Ross 22: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


D V.Loov 22: 8gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gms, 21gls, 31pts)
D P.Granberg 22: 8gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

D S.Percy 21: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
D M.Finn 20: 3gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)

D T.Nilsson 21: 8gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)
D A.MacWilliam 24: 6gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


G A.Bibeau 20: 4gms, .943sv%
G C.Gibson 22: 4gms, .915sv%


SHL

C W.Nylander (18): 8gms, 3gls, 11pts (82gms, 31gls, 113pts)
W A.Johnson (20): 18gms, 10gls, 14pts (82gms, 46gls, 64pts)
W P.Engvall (18): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts) --- J20: 16gms, 9gls, 20pts (82gms, 46gls, 103pts)


ECHL

G G.Sparks (21): 4gms, .966sv%
W B.Ross (22): 7gms, 3gls, 6pts (82gms, 35gls, 70pts)
W T.Biggs (21): 8gms, 4gls, 6pts (82gms, 41gls, 62pts)
C R.Rupert (20): 7gms, 0gls, 4pts (82gms, 0gls, 47pts)
D E.Knodel (24): 8gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


CHL

D R.Valiev (19): 5gms, 2gls, 5pts (82gms, 33gls, 82pts)
D C.Donaghey (18): 14gms, 3gls, 9pts (82gms, 18gls, 53pts)
C C.Verhaeghe (19): 14gms, 6gls, 10pts (82gms, 35gls, 59pts)
C F.Gauthier (19): 3gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gms, 27gls, 27pts)


NCAA

C D.Toninato (20): 6gms, 6gls, 8pts (82gms, 82gls, 109pts)
C T.Cameranesi (21): 6gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 27gls, 82pts)
C N.Vesey (19): 8gms, 0gls, 3pts (82gms, 0gls, 31pts)
C J.Piccinich (18): 5gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
D M.Everson (21): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


USHL

C D.Joshua (18): 12gms, 7gls, 14pts (82gms, 48gls, 96pts)

 

[7even]

MacArthur never put up close to Brown's CHL numbers.

A lot of successful NHL players didn't post Brown's CHL numbers.

 

[one77]

Nylander is tearing the SHL apart as an 18 year old, #1C. Beautiful.

 

[Yan28]

3rd line C -Gauthier, 4th line C - Carrick

What do you guys think of those prospects?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Gauthier 0 points game today. Of note on face-offs he was 5/21.

The positive was he was even in plus-minus.

This gives him 1 point in 4 games on the year.

 

[TML1967]

Im gonna be a HUGE dick here, sorry. Would it be possible zeke to have the total points made to match the total number their respective leagues play? It might sound dumb, but saying Nylander will get that many points (or is on pace) is somewhat disingenuous when his league plays... 60?

AHL

C G.McKegg 22: 8gms, 2gls, 4pts (82gms, 21gls, 41pts)
W C.Brown 20: 8gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 21gls, 62pts)
W S.Abbott 26: 8gms, 2gls, 5pts (82gms, 21gls, 51pts)

C S.Carrick 22: 7gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 12pts)
W J.Leivo 21: 7gms, 1gls, 3pts (82gms, 12gls, 35pts)
W B.Findlay 22: 4gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

C P.Watling 21: 7gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gms, 12gls, 12pts)
W D.Broll 21: 7gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W J.Devane 23: 8gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)

C B.Vail 20: 6gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W T.Biggs 21: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
W B.Ross 22: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


D V.Loov 22: 8gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gms, 21gls, 31pts)
D P.Granberg 22: 8gms, 0gls, 2pts (82gms, 0gls, 21pts)

D S.Percy 21: 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
D M.Finn 20: 3gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)

D T.Nilsson 21: 8gms, 0gls, 1pts (82gms, 0gls, 10pts)
D A.MacWilliam 24: 6gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


G A.Bibeau 20: 4gms, .943sv%
G C.Gibson 22: 4gms, .915sv%


SHL

C W.Nylander (18): 8gms, 3gls, 11pts (82gms, 31gls, 113pts)
W A.Johnson (20): 18gms, 10gls, 14pts (82gms, 46gls, 64pts)
W P.Engvall (18): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts) --- J20: 16gms, 9gls, 20pts (82gms, 46gls, 103pts)


ECHL

G G.Sparks (21): 4gms, .966sv%
W B.Ross (22): 7gms, 3gls, 6pts (82gms, 35gls, 70pts)
W T.Biggs (21): 8gms, 4gls, 6pts (82gms, 41gls, 62pts)
C R.Rupert (20): 7gms, 0gls, 4pts (82gms, 0gls, 47pts)
D E.Knodel (24): 8gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


CHL

D R.Valiev (19): 5gms, 2gls, 5pts (82gms, 33gls, 82pts)
D C.Donaghey (18): 14gms, 3gls, 9pts (82gms, 18gls, 53pts)
C C.Verhaeghe (19): 14gms, 6gls, 10pts (82gms, 35gls, 59pts)
C F.Gauthier (19): 3gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gms, 27gls, 27pts)


NCAA

C D.Toninato (20): 6gms, 6gls, 8pts (82gms, 82gls, 109pts)
C T.Cameranesi (21): 6gms, 2gls, 6pts (82gms, 27gls, 82pts)
C N.Vesey (19): 8gms, 0gls, 3pts (82gms, 0gls, 31pts)
C J.Piccinich (18): 5gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)
D M.Everson (21): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (82gms, 0gls, 0pts)


USHL

C D.Joshua (18): 12gms, 7gls, 14pts (82gms, 48gls, 96pts)

 

[hockeygeek]

Gauthier 0 points game today. Of note on face-offs he was 5/21.

The positive was he was even in plus-minus.

This gives him 1 point in 4 games on the year.

Ouch! I expected him to have a slow start but that's a beatdown in the dot

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Ouch! I expected him to have a slow start but that's a beatdown in the dot

Maybe this is why ShaNis made the move to Hunter to oversee all of our scouting.

An inauspicious start to Gauthier's season after draft year.

 

[zeke]

Im gonna be a HUGE dick here, sorry. Would it be possible zeke to have the total points made to match the total number their respective leagues play? It might sound dumb, but saying Nylander will get that many points (or is on pace) is somewhat disingenuous when his league plays... 60?

pace is just current ppg. its not a prediction, it's just so we can compare players with different numbers of games played.

 

[Atomos2]

Im gonna be a HUGE dick here, sorry. Would it be possible zeke to have the total points made to match the total number their respective leagues play? It might sound dumb, but saying Nylander will get that many points (or is on pace) is somewhat disingenuous when his league plays... 60?

Its not hard. Just divide the number of points the player has by the number of games he has played, then multiply it by the total number of games they will play in their respective leagues.

Nylander has missed some games already and will probably miss more due to the world jrs so his total number of games he will play in the SHL would be less.

 

[LeafsTop6]

Ouch! I expected him to have a slow start but that's a beatdown in the dot

well he did just come off of an injury

 

[Stringer Bell]

If Gauthier can improve his face offs a bit I could see him one day becoming a Dave Steckel 'lite' for us during his Washington years. He's got a bit of an uphill battle and a lot of work to do but I believe he has what it takes to get there one day.

 

[BigWilly]

If Gauthier can improve his face offs a bit I could see him one day becoming a Dave Steckel 'lite' for us during his Washington years. He's got a bit of an uphill battle and a lot of work to do but I believe he has what it takes to get there one day.

Dave Steckel never cracked 20 points, Dave Steckel lite would be a 3rd line AHL player.

You guys need to relax with Gauthier in the same way you need to relax with Nylander. They're 19 and 18 respectively and have a ridiculous amount of room to grow/mess up.

 

[Pholus]

Im gonna be a HUGE dick here, sorry. Would it be possible zeke to have the total points made to match the total number their respective leagues play? It might sound dumb, but saying Nylander will get that many points (or is on pace) is somewhat disingenuous when his league plays... 60?

As others have pointed out, it would take quite a bit of effort to prorate each guys' stats to the # of games his league plays. Not only that, but considering that most guys have missed time (ex. SHL season is 55 games but Nylander missed the first 8(?) so you'd have to prorate him to 47; Gauthier & Valiev started late due to injury, etc.) and there is also the fact that we don't know how many games some guys will end up playing (ex. NCAA 'schedule' is only like 35ish games, but then there is the potential for up to ~41 games with 'playoff' tournaments; Engvall has already played in 3 different leagues, so would you prorate his stats for all 3?). Basically, what you have suggested, while it would probably be more meaningful than just flat 82-game prorating for every guy, would be a pretty time intensive undertaking.

 

[CalgaryLeaf*]

Wow Bibeau with a .943 sv% ------You never know with goalie propects but this kid could be legit. It would be awesome if the Leafs could develop a superstar type goalie from junior to pro.(crosses fingers)

Gauthier I see as a 4th line checking center in a few years...Not exactly what you expect out of a first round draft pick...Yeah it's early and bigger guys often need a longer time to develop but I don't see much upside there.

 

[zeke]

As others have pointed out, it would take quite a bit of effort to prorate each guys' stats to the # of games his league plays. Not only that, but considering that most guys have missed time (ex. SHL season is 55 games but Nylander missed the first 8(?) so you'd have to prorate him to 47; Gauthier & Valiev started late due to injury, etc.) and there is also the fact that we don't know how many games some guys will end up playing (ex. NCAA 'schedule' is only like 35ish games, but then there is the potential for up to ~41 games with 'playoff' tournaments; Engvall has already played in 3 different leagues, so would you prorate his stats for all 3?). Basically, what you have suggested, while it would probably be more meaningful than just flat 82-game prorating for every guy, would be a pretty time intensive undertaking.

the work is no big deal.

I just don't know what value there is in prorating a different number for each league. How is that helpful?

 

[zeke]

At this point I wish we'd just get rid of Smith, Orr, Mclaren, Kontiola, Bodie, Mikkelson, and Marshall.

I'd rather struggle with the kids all playing then be good with these no future vets taking up space.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

In other news, Biggs has been recalled to the Marlies. Good for him, hope he keeps it up.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

In other news, Biggs has been recalled to the Marlies. Good for him, hope he keeps it up.

I am on a roll, called it out weeks ago, and it happens.

Just listen to Interactif folks!

 

[The Winter Soldier]

If Gauthier can improve his face offs a bit I could see him one day becoming a Dave Steckel 'lite' for us during his Washington years. He's got a bit of an uphill battle and a lot of work to do but I believe he has what it takes to get there one day.

We drafted Steckel 2.0, boy I am excited.

One point in 4 GP. Morrison and the boys are not looking good on this one.