That's what has been reported, but it was also reported that the Canadian PK unit was causing alot of trouble for the PP in practice, so Babcock might change it very early on if he's not satisfied against real opponents.
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That's what has been reported, but it was also reported that the Canadian PK unit was causing alot of trouble for the PP in practice, so Babcock might change it very early on if he's not satisfied against real opponents.
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Why can't you just learn to live with the fact that Price is the guy team Canada wants to be the starter.
It does seem like an odd move, taking the chance with a forward when the talent level is just insane on the backend. Maybe Babcock knows something about Sharp/Keith from his years of playing against them in the central?
How much do you guys think Canada wins by tomorrow? I'm thinking 6 but I'm not sure. The spread on bodog is -4.5.
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Very happy indeed they only have to block Weber's.
I don't understand what PK brings that Weber, Doughty and AP don't already bring as RH shots, big minutes and superior 200ft games. (The 'seniority' factor is a myth, as AP is Subban's age.)
It's the left side that needs a bit more depth, so that's why the extra should be a lefty. Keith can play 30mins a game, but he shouldn't have to.
I think the only way Subban draws in is if Weber looks outmatched speed-wise on the bigger ice, which might not be the case because of his enourmous reach, or if AP somehow falters here in the spotlight. Doubtful.
Despite all this, Norway and Austria are games in which Babcock will see what the extras have to offer.
edit: One major factor in Subban's likely scratching is fairly simple: He takes more penalties than any other Team Canada defenseman. In this tournament, penalties, or rather, not taking them, will be key. Only Doughty comes close, but I doubt Subban replaces him. We'll see.
A-Subban's skating skills and offensive game is better than all of the other right shot defenseman.
B-You can make the same argument about Hamhuis, what does he bring that Vlasic, Bouwmeester don't already bring?
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Maybe they're just seeing how well the PK can do against, for example, Russia's PP, which will likely feature a forward back there.
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Stop it, stop using logic.
Also, PK probably has the most experience on the big ice.
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A-Even if you want to make that case, it's been determined that he's not fast or skilled enough offensively to beat them out solid jobs. That's why he's not currently 100% in. The competition on the right side was far stiffer. Which leads to answering...
B-Hamhuis and Vlasic will split 3rd pairing/pk time so that Keith doesn't have to play too much, too early and that J-Bo doesn't get exposed/hammered. Looking at who came, it is obvious there is more of a need to bring an extra lefty than a righty. Add in PK's unsteady play and penalty-taking, and it's an open and shut case, imho. But things could happen to change the situation.
A little surprised that Keith is on the 1st PP unit. A large majority of Chicago fans prefer Nick Leddy over Keith quarterbacking the #1 PP.
Surprised you guys don't have Weber, Pietrangelo, Subban, etc on that first unit.
Surprised you guys don't have Weber, Pietrangelo, Subban, etc on that first unit.
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Exactly until the words actually come out of Babcocks mouth who he's going with I'd wait to jump to conclusions.
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You do know that L.A. plays a forechecking cycle game right? Learn about what systems teams play before making such silly statements.
Because it demonstrates exactly why it's Luongo's fault, no doubt.
This was tweeted yesterday:
Though I'm sure this is an "excuse" & nothing more.
So other goalies can adapt to the different rules and Luongo couldn't? Cry me a river, you're playing under the same rules as everyone else.
That play doesn't happen if Luongo catches the puck because Team Canada makes a change. Again, you're putting the cart before the horse.
I guess Luongo didn't get credited for the Win... oh wait he did! ....by everyone in the World except for you.
Yes, everyone in these 18 threads has been giving credit to Luongo for the win; that's why people are picking Price as their starter.
You can't honestly be so stupid that you can't see how much of a detriment he was to the team. The game went to OT because of him, no matter who you want to try to shift the blame on to. Can you not see how much of a Luongo-loving homer this makes you look like? How this makes you come off as nothing more than a Canucks fanboi who has some sort of weird obsession with a "top 5 goalie" who some how lost his starting position, but what still in the top 5?
Yes, you are, because you're sitting here shouting "he won, you just hate the canucks and are a homer" over and over again. The single play is merely the best representation of the lack of objectivity that Canucks fans have on Luongo's play over the last 4 years and in that tournament.
Brodeur won that year too and yet are you going to argue how great he played? It would make about the same amount of sense.
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No one gives Luongo extensive credit for Canada's success in 2010. If no one criticised Luongo's play in 2010 such as you did, there would be no one praising Luongo's play. He was not their MVP, he did not hold them back. Canada won gold, and he was good enough to backstop them to gold, even if you think it was barely enough. It says a lot that you reach for individual (botched) saves to attempt to critique Luongo's overall performance.
Oh by Luongo fans you mean Zanon? Generalization gets you no where. I've seen several Luongo fans assume/agree that Price is/should start. I'm a Canucks/Luongo fan myself, and while I want Luongo to start, I have no problem with Price starting due to his regular season play, and it seems like he is the go-to guy. Other people are simply defending Luongo's play in 2010.
Shhh: how can you be so stupid to talk about something that never happened? We won; ergo he didn't look shaky.
I got in early and got Canada at -3.5. All (or many) of the players on the team should be looking to prove their worth to the coaching staff, so I don't think there's going to be any letting up on the part of team Canada.
I also had Sweden -155 today. That line moved a lot too, I'm not sure what it ended up settling on. But if you get in early you can find some soft lines.
First I'd like to compliment you for making such a level headed post.
I think why a lot of posters are criticizing Luongo's performance in 2010 is because that very performance is being used as the only advantage that Luongo has over Price right now.
It's not just Zanon who says stuff like "he got us there 4 years ago", or "5 straight wins", or "Price hasn't proven anything"...and frankly those comments are a load of garbage.
The answer is very clear to those with an objective view: The better goalie should start. We've had close to 60 NHL games to see who the better goalie is, and while Price hasn't been the better of the two for 100% of the season, he's been the better of the two for the majority of the season, including the most important part, the 2 weeks before the actual tournament.
The posters who want Luongo to start are unable to look past their own wishes to see whats best for the team.
Barring an epic meltdown, Price will be the starter for this tournament. It shouldn't even be a discussion.
I should add: In hindsight, it was the incorrect decision to start Brodeur in 2010. Fortunately his poor play was exposed in essentially a nothing game. What if he played OK against the states then played like that against Slovakia???
We can't afford to make that same incorrect decision again. Every game counts.
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Actually I think our goaltending is what is going to cost us a gold medal. I've got this strange feeling team USA will win gold this Olympics....It will be their goaltending what will steal it for them.
Mark my words!
Picking us to win...
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/sto...s-canada-gold-usa-silver-schedule-tv-listings
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/sto...s-canada-gold-usa-silver-schedule-tv-listings
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Why wouldn't it be a discussion? It's been a discussion since the offseason, even for management and the coaches. It's only becoming more clear now that Price may be the man, but if it was so clear cut there wouldn't have been a discussion at all.
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God forbid someone actually believe that either Price or Luongo could backstop this team to gold.
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Yea... I think Price should be the starter because it seems to me personally that he is playing better at the moment which is really what should matter.
HOWEVER, people saying on either side of the debate that it's so obvious, there should be no discussion, that they know for sure that based on this guy starting this game and so and so starting another that one is gonna be the starter, etc. etc. is crap. No one on these boards knows this and it could go either way. Continue to debate your opinions all you like, but to act like anyone's is more valid or correct than another's is delusional.
HOWEVER, people saying on either side of the debate that it's so obvious, there should be no discussion, that they know for sure that based on this guy starting this game and so and so starting another that one is gonna be the starter, etc. etc. is crap. No one on these boards knows this and it could go either way. Continue to debate your opinions all you like, but to act like anyone's is more valid or correct than another's is delusional.
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