Sure, and Ehlers is 6’0. Your point exactly?Kyle Connor is 6’1 lol
Sure, and Ehlers is 6’0. Your point exactly?Kyle Connor is 6’1 lol
I think you otherwise understood pretty well how I see Ehlers, but I think you still misinterpreted my probably quite unclear explanation of how I dislike Messi in soccer compared to prime Ibrahimovic. My point wasn’t exactly that I necessarily dislike small players. It was just about Messi’s play style and then using his small size as a tool for getting penalties to opponents by falling, rolling and crying enough.
Some of my all time favorite players have been Theo Fleury, Martin St. Louis and Saku Koivu, and at the moment, I have the highest admiration towards Johnny Hockey and Mats Zuccarello. And of the Jets players I like Kyle Connor and his style of play much, much more than Ehlers’s.
It is still the stylistic, and too much speed oriented aspect of Ehler’s game that I very much dislike. Some people even here have blamed Laine a one trick pony, but to me honestly, if anyone of the Jets is by any means a one trick pony, it is Ehlers. But I do promise that I’m willing to change my opinion on Ehlers if he ever starts changing his style so that he would use less constant blazing and get more vision on what his teammates are really doing and start playing more of a thinking man’s game. I just really dislike his speed dependency and how he doesn’t use it much really for the true benefit of his teammates. This is how I see it at the moment, and even how strongly some of you are against my opinions, they will not change until Ehlers himself shows that there is a reason to change those opinions. Some of you guys truly don’t seem to understand what opinions mean and that all of us are allowed to have them, even how outrageous other people’s opinions might feel to ourselves.
I think the personal attack’s really should stop, and this is why I myself will definitely take care that I also will not do them by any means either.
No One think you dislike Him for being danish!! You said earlyer you Think ehlers dont pass to Laine Because he had taken his spotlight... have you seen ehlers when Laine score? He is the happiest guy!!! Sometimes what you Think of others is how you Self are get it? Ehlers is a young up and comming star... You finns have had Many stars in hockey... cant us danes not have 1 too? We have Frans Nielsen and The bust Boedker... cant we try to have Something Nice for a change? I absolutely dislike big slow players!!! But you Know what? I love Laine Because he is a Winnipeg jets! There is alot of room for spotlight on all the players on OUR team so dont worryHe happens to argue with some well made points then. You might even disagree with them, but at least he is not attacking the posters, just making counter arguments.
No One think you dislike Him for being danish!! You said earlyer you Think ehlers dont pass to Laine Because he had taken his spotlight... have you seen ehlers when Laine score? He is the happiest guy!!! Sometimes what you Think of others is how you Self are get it? Ehlers is a young up and comming star... You finns have had Many stars in hockey... cant us danes not have 1 too? We have Frans Nielsen and The bust Boedker... cant we try to have Something Nice for a change? I absolutely dislike big slow players!!! But you Know what? I love Laine Because he is a Winnipeg jets! There is alot of room for spotlight on all the players on OUR team so dont worry
Then we just disagree massively and life goes on. I have already pointed out in several messages the reasons why I think Ehlers is selfish, and I will not repeat myself again. Partially it might be also because of his lack of vision when he is blazing at full speed. But I have seen enough of elements in his game to think that he is also greedy when it comes to goal scoring and holding on to the puck. Also his quite subpar defensive play is one reason why I see him as a pretty selfish player. But as I already stated, none of you will really change my opinion on him. The good thing is that Ehlers can definitely change my opinions on him. Hopefully he will manage to play in the way that I will be forced to change my opinion on him.I personally have zero issues with you not liking him. I really couldn’t care less. I also have zero against Finns (except that weird language of yours ) My issue was that calling him selfish and a non team player has nothing to do with style or how much he contributes to the team. Him being selfish has been floated around for a while now and the more posters see that the more likely they are to repeat it (kind of like the nonsense that Laine is one dimensional). I’d like to put that to rest because it simply isn’t true by any possible metric you can find.
Even if we say Ehlers was riding ESLs coattails last season how do you explain him being a great playmaker all other years? Do I get to downgrade Laine pp goals because Ehlers was the reason he got some of those opportunities? And how do you explain Ehlers having the second most 5v5 pts on the team last season and being top 10 in the whole league. Was that someone’s else fault too? If you think Ehlers is a one trick pony (which you seem to do) then you must think 90% of the league are as well. Personally I can only think of three other Jet forwards with a better overall game and your golden boy isn’t one of them...
Maybe we should all get together and bash Enstrom. I’m sure Danes and Finns can agree that Swedes suck
_____________________________________________________I personally have zero issues with you not liking him. I really couldn’t care less. I also have zero against Finns (except that weird language of yours ) My issue was that calling him selfish and a non team player has nothing to do with style or how much he contributes to the team. Him being selfish has been floated around for a while now and the more posters see that the more likely they are to repeat it (kind of like the nonsense that Laine is one dimensional). I’d like to put that to rest because it simply isn’t true by any possible metric you can find.
Even if we say Ehlers was riding ESLs coattails last season how do you explain him being a great playmaker all other years? Do I get to downgrade Laine pp goals because Ehlers was the reason he got some of those opportunities? And how do you explain Ehlers having the second most 5v5 pts on the team last season and being top 10 in the whole league. Was that someone’s else fault too? If you think Ehlers is a one trick pony (which you seem to do) then you must think 90% of the league are as well. Personally I can only think of three other Jet forwards with a better overall game and your golden boy isn’t one of them...
Then we just disagree massively and life goes on. I have already pointed out in several messages the reasons why I think Ehlers is selfish, and I will not repeat myself again. Partially it might be also because of his lack of vision when he is blazing at full speed. But I have seen enough of elements in his game to think that he is also greedy when it comes to goal scoring and holding on to the puck. Also his quite subpar defensive play is one reason why I see him as a pretty selfish player. But as I already stated, none of you will really change my opinion on him. The good thing is that Ehlers cam definitely change my opinions on him. Hopefully he will manage to play in the way that I will be forced to change my opinion on him.
I think everyone here knows why Ehlers gets hate from a specific group of people here, ...
Just a Very small group and 3 min. After hockey professor post hahahahaDo you have evidence that Ippenator is a group of people now, as I can't see the "hate" (or rather, honest but odd dislike) for Ehlers from other posters.
Hockey professor doesn't seem to post anymore. He maybe did hate anyone not named Laine. But I would not say two people makes a group.
There would be no end to that really.Maybe we should all get together and bash Enstrom. I’m sure Danes and Finns can agree that Swedes suck
There would be no end to that really.
But, seriously, I guess I need to try to give Ehlers still a break. He is young like many of us (even me) have mentioned already, and he will most probably develop tons still. You Danes are also seriously good people, and I definitely don’t want to offend you and your country. I have to admit that you now reminded me in a healthy way, how it is when your country is still looking for their real star class NHL player. We Finns had that kind of a time in the eighties, and when Jari Kurri eventually breaked through in a big way, it felt absolutely amazing. So I can definitely relate to how passionately you Danes must really feel about Ehlers. I just needed a healthy reminder of it. Thanks for that. And sure, we all are hoping for the best of the Jets. I’m definitely doing that too, even though Laine is my favorite player on the Jets. But his success without the Jets succeeding doesn’t really mean much after all. So definitely I’m hoping for all the Jets to do well. Hopefully we will have a nice springtime with the Jets, as long as possible!
My issue was that calling him selfish and a non team player ...
Sure, and Ehlers is 6’0. Your point exactly?
Me too. The vast majority of posters here, Canadian and international, are great and mutually supportive, but it still feels like I need to wear a flak jacket before entering some threads.These infights over minor topics makes me sad. Personally I root for Ehlers and hope him great career. I don't subscribe that alleged selfishness (beyond any reasonable level considering his role in the team), and I feel good for fellow Danes they have their own star player (in fact I root for Danes in all international tournaments, if the game isn't against Finland)...
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These infights over minor topics makes me sad. Personally I root for Ehlers and hope him great career. (snip) Go Jets Go!
Yes it's fine to reply to it and argue his points but what's the point of going on about it after that? Voice your disagreement and offer your arguments, if that doesn't change his mind then too bad, hopefully Ehlers will show him the light at some point. I doubt it because it seems to be a size related dislike. As weird as that might sound to us, at least he has offered his reasons.