Line Combos: 19-20 lineup

[MessierII]

Of course not, half the time he played with mcdavid, he's not a first liner. The depth was pathetic last season where he had the opportunity to get first line minutes.

Quality depth players are needed as well for success. He's no marshmallow and he's in his prime today.

He is a quality depth player though. If you don’t keep him your just looking to hit another home run on the next Chiasson.

 

[McSuper]

Why are people putting Benson in the lineup let alone in the top 6 ? guy can barely move as fast as Sam Gagner .Keep him in the minors until you see a consistent improvement in his game and skating. Let him dominate the AHL before bringing him up.

I agree . Keep my the young guys in the AHL until the Oilers have their cap fixed and can bring in better players to improve . The shit show that are the Oilers right now can ruin a kid .

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

Man, as much as we've been disparaging the lack of talent that Tippet had to work with in relation to his time with the Coyotes, he at least had Yandle and OEL who had game breaking ability in terms of stretch passes and puck moving; this roster hasn't had that since Ryan Whitney

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Man, as much as we've been disparaging the lack of talent that Tippet had to work with in relation to his time with the Coyotes, he at least had Yandle and OEL who had game breaking ability in terms of stretch passes and puck moving; this roster hasn't had that since Ryan Whitney

We have McDavid.

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

Jesus we have Mc****ingDavid

True, but zero D puck-movers who could still be relied upon defensively

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

True, but zero D puck-movers who could still be relied upon defensively

True but Arizona had a substantially worse lineup still.

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

True but Arizona had a substantially worse lineup still.

I can't see this Oilers' team being "8th place bound" until they have an offensive winger and a puck moving D. The league is too competitive and this roster is pretty sad.

 

[Nordiques1979]

True, but zero D puck-movers who could still be relied upon defensively

Let's hope Bouchard can fill this role soon...

 

[oilexport]

I really like a couple d moving up from the farm. If we lose some salary from Russell and other high price bottom pairs, it gives us options to upgrade the wings and get some production. We we do that, were fine for the playoffs. We also have 1 or 2 developing forwards that might step up. Get a good backup, I dont see us being that far. We have holes but they are manageable if the right moves are made. We have lots of good pieces.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Hes alot stronger on his skates than Gagner.

Theres alot more to skating than speed.

The veteran Gagner has very little difficulty staying on his skates and was able to absorb quite a few hits at the NHL level. Sam Gagner is stronger than the young version we formerly had here. This is a guy still in prime with all kinds of imaginative plays and that has hands, can run a PP, control the puck in tight quarters. Gagner is basically already arrived. Bird in hand. If we have a dud like Colby Cave out there in depth instead of talent like Gagner it will be a shame.

 

[MessierII]

The veteran Gagner has very little difficulty staying on his skates and was able to absorb quite a few hits at the NHL level. Sam Gagner is stronger than the young version we formerly had here. This is a guy still in prime with all kinds of imaginative plays and that has hands, can run a PP, control the puck in tight quarters. Gagner is basically already arrived. Bird in hand. If we have a dud like Colby Cave out there in depth instead of talent like Gagner it will be a shame.

Totally different roles so I don’t really see them as direct competitors. They aren’t really playing the same type of icetime. I think cave is our 4C currently. He was much better than Brodziak.

 

[Smartguy]

Am I the only one who thinks Holland is going to have to do some major work with no space. I’d say if we want to compete the lines look right now like
X. McDavid Draisaitl
X. RNH X
Kharia X Kassian
Nygard Brodziak Gagner
Lucic

Klef/Larsson
Nurse/X
X/Sekera

Koskinen
X

We need to shed Russel if we can, probably more eatable for a team then Sekera. At minimum 2 of those top 6 spots need proven talent. A legit 3C is a must. A backup goalie is a must.

I get people saying “we have Mcdavid, we don’t need to overhaul to make it”. Mcdavid and Drai put up insane years this past year and I didn’t even feel like we were close after like December.

I mean we have some good depth on the way in Benson, Yamamoto, Bouchard. But if this brutal stretch has taught us anything it’s that we can’t rely on it. I’m also assuming Pulju is flipped, hopefully to address one of the spots marked X

 

[nabob]

Hoping they roll with Kassian on the wing with Connor and Leon. He looked good there in the 2nd half.

 

[Smartguy]

Hoping they roll with Kassian on the wing with Connor and Leon. He looked good there in the 2nd half.

Kassian is the type of player that when he’s rolling, that’s when you put him up in the lineup. To me if we want to compete this year you have a guy who is much more consistent moving between Mcdavids line and the second line. Mcdavids wingers will be very fluid unless we stumble across another Maroon. Kassian can look great for like 10 games then disappear for a lot more.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Kassian is the type of player that when he’s rolling, that’s when you put him up in the lineup. To me if we want to compete this year you have a guy who is much more consistent moving between Mcdavids line and the second line. Mcdavids wingers will be very fluid unless we stumble across another Maroon. Kassian can look great for like 10 games then disappear for a lot more.

They need a solid winger for the second line much more than a guy who can play on the first line.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The veteran Gagner has very little difficulty staying on his skates and was able to absorb quite a few hits at the NHL level. Sam Gagner is stronger than the young version we formerly had here. This is a guy still in prime with all kinds of imaginative plays and that has hands, can run a PP, control the puck in tight quarters. Gagner is basically already arrived. Bird in hand. If we have a dud like Colby Cave out there in depth instead of talent like Gagner it will be a shame.

gagner was pretty useless after the shine wore off near the end of the season.

 

[Smartguy]

They need a solid winger for the second line much more than a guy who can play on the first line.

They need a lot of wingers, but have no cap space to make that happen. So your best bet is going to be to chase after a second line guy, but hopefully a guy who can jump on the top line when needed and produce.

They aren’t going to fill all those holes in the lineup this offseason, so the players they can get are going to hopefully be very versatile

 

[nabob]

Kassian is the type of player that when he’s rolling, that’s when you put him up in the lineup. To me if we want to compete this year you have a guy who is much more consistent moving between Mcdavids line and the second line. Mcdavids wingers will be very fluid unless we stumble across another Maroon. Kassian can look great for like 10 games then disappear for a lot more.

Unfortunately he may be our best option as our winger depth is terrible. I’m done with guys like Rattie proving night after night that they just don’t have the physical tools to play top 6 minutes.

Maybe Gagner could be effective there, he played a more effective game last year when he came back.

 

[lakai17]

They need a solid winger for the second line much more than a guy who can play on the first line.

Mikey Ferland

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Mikey Ferland

Prime candidate for getting overpaid

 

[Nordiques1979]

Am I the only one who thinks Holland is going to have to do some major work with no space. I’d say if we want to compete the lines look right now like
X. McDavid Draisaitl
X. RNH X
Kharia X Kassian
Nygard Brodziak Gagner
Lucic

Klef/Larsson
Nurse/X
X/Sekera

Koskinen
X

We need to shed Russel if we can, probably more eatable for a team then Sekera. At minimum 2 of those top 6 spots need proven talent. A legit 3C is a must. A backup goalie is a must.

I get people saying “we have Mcdavid, we don’t need to overhaul to make it”. Mcdavid and Drai put up insane years this past year and I didn’t even feel like we were close after like December.

I mean we have some good depth on the way in Benson, Yamamoto, Bouchard. But if this brutal stretch has taught us anything it’s that we can’t rely on it. I’m also assuming Pulju is flipped, hopefully to address one of the spots marked X

That's why they have to give some chances to guys like Benson for example. And not buy some expensive useless vets

 

[Smartguy]

That's why they have to give some chances to guys like Benson for example. And not buy some expensive useless vets

Issue is how many times have we went into a season and said, “ We will give X the opportunity and they will flourish”, just recently it happened with Slepyshev, and then last year it happened with Rattie, Yamamoto, and Pulju. All of them have fallen on there face. You can’t go into next season expecting these guys to have a spot next year

 

[Nordiques1979]

Am I the only one who thinks Holland is going to have to do some major work with no space. I’d say if we want to compete the lines look right now like
X. McDavid Draisaitl
X. RNH X
Kharia X Kassian
Nygard Brodziak Gagner
Lucic

Klef/Larsson
Nurse/X
X/Sekera

Koskinen
X

We need to shed Russel if we can, probably more eatable for a team then Sekera. At minimum 2 of those top 6 spots need proven talent. A legit 3C is a must. A backup goalie is a must.

I get people saying “we have Mcdavid, we don’t need to overhaul to make it”. Mcdavid and Drai put up insane years this past year and I didn’t even feel like we were close after like December.

I mean we have some good depth on the way in Benson, Yamamoto, Bouchard. But if this brutal stretch has taught us anything it’s that we can’t rely on it. I’m also assuming Pulju is flipped, hopefully to address one of the spots marked X

I would give Chiasson another contract. For the cap hit he had, he overpassed any expectations in a role he was clearly not made for.

I could see him on the third or fourth, if one of Nygard / Gagner doesn't impress.

 

[Oilers in NS]

gagner was pretty useless after the shine wore off near the end of the season.

Can’t see much coming from him. He brought some spark when he first got here in the Spooner trade but fizzled

 

[Oilers in NS]

If the trade of Lucic to Vancouver for Loui, where would he fit in? Is he too old or do they have anything left in him. Both players need a change bad