Prospect Info: #118 Case McCarthy D

[NJDevs26]

Yepp. Doubting Ray is a fool’s errand.

Then we drafted another 2000 kids.

He trolled us good twice today, first coming up with Subban behind door #2 after the Marleau trade then passing on McCarthy like eight times with HF growling then got him anyway with one of the 9342 extra picks he traded for.

 

[glenwo2]

He trolled us good twice today, first coming up with Subban behind door #2 after the Marleau trade then passing on McCarthy like eight times with HF growling then got him anyway with one of the 9342 extra picks he traded for.

Nailed it. lol

 

[Nubmer6]

If "sturm und drang" means "Me whining like a baby about Shero passing up McCarthy", that is quite accurate.

I thought we were going to have to sedate you

 

[glenwo2]

I thought we were going to have to sedate you

I did this instead on your behalf to me :

 

[Japam]

Anyone know what his plans are for next season? And for @StevenToddIves, how far away from the NHL would you say he is?

 

[Devils731]

Anyone know what his plans are for next season? And for @StevenToddIves, how far away from the NHL would you say he is?

You can get the whole us program here.

U.S. National Under-18 Team - 2018-19 Regular Season - Roster

He is going to Boston University.

 

[devilsblood]

Why did he fall so far?

I believe shut-down D are a bit unheralded, and unfairly so. But believe me, he's just a tremendous get at #118

I also feel there were a bunch of big defensive d-men in this draft. Last year there were a ton speedy little guys. This year the opposite. And maybe cause McCarthy was not as big as some of them he fell? I mean heck, look at the defensive d-men we picked ahead of him.

 

[devilsblood]

Anyone know what his plans are for next season? And for @StevenToddIves, how far away from the NHL would you say he is?

I'd expect at least 2 years. Maybe 3.

 

[StevenToddIves]

I also feel there were a bunch of big defensive d-men in this draft. Last year there were a ton speedy little guys. This year the opposite. And maybe cause McCarthy was not as big as some of them he fell? I mean heck, look at the defensive d-men we picked ahead of him.

There really weren't so many big defensive defensemen. I felt the Devils drafted 4 of the 10 most physical D in the draft -- clearly this was a target area of need, and thankfully so.

To me -- if there is a Jake Slavin in this draft, it's McCarthy. I see him as a shut-down, team-first guy with high-end compete level and physicality. It is possible he progresses at Boston University faster than anyone suspects.

 

[devilsblood]

There really weren't so many big defensive defensemen. I felt the Devils drafted 4 of the 10 most physical D in the draft -- clearly this was a target area of need, and thankfully so.

To me -- if there is a Jake Slavin in this draft, it's McCarthy. I see him as a shut-down, team-first guy with high-end compete level and physicality. It is possible he progresses at Boston University faster than anyone suspects.

If you exclude the guys with more offensive upside like Seider, Vlasic or Tuomisto then sure. And maybe teams demand some level of offensive ability from their draftees? Going with the idea it's easier to teach defense then offense.

 

[StevenToddIves]

If you exclude the guys with more offensive upside like Seider, Vlasic or Tuomisto then sure. And maybe teams demand some level of offensive ability from their draftees? Going with the idea it's easier to teach defense then offense.

Misyul has greater offensive upside than Vlasic, likely similar to Tuomisto -- and is far more defensively advanced than either of those two. Case McCarthy was a far superior player on the same US-NTDP blueline than Vlasic. I agree that Seider is an absolute stud.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Wonder why the kid fell so far

Why did he fall so far?

Very fortunate that he was still available at 118.

McCarthy didnt really fall, and the Devils werent "fortunate" he was around >100 picks in, he got picked right about where most professional scouts had him being picked.

NHL Central Scouting had him at #77 in North America, which is somewhere over #100 overall.
Future considerations listed him #111, which is right near where the Devils snagged him.

I have no idea where this idea (solely seemingly on this board) that he was going to be a late 1st-Round pick came from.

 

[Nubmer6]

 

[StevenToddIves]

McCarthy didnt really fall, and the Devils werent "fortunate" he was around >100 picks in, he got picked right about where most professional scouts had him being picked.

NHL Central Scouting had him at #77 in North America, which is somewhere over #100 overall.
Future considerations listed him #111, which is right near where the Devils snagged him.

I have no idea where this idea (solely seemingly on this board) that he was going to be a late 1st-Round pick came from.

I had McCarthy ranked higher than anyone, but I also did my darnedest to explain precisely why. It's irrelevant now, anyone would agree he was a huge value at #118.

 

[NjDevsRR]

Whats with this false narrative of McCarthy freefalling? He was taken a little bit later where he was ranked by many people (no offense to Steve who does great work). That is why the outrage yesterday of him ‘falling’ made no sense. He didn’t fall a lot.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

I think this is a really great pick. However I would like to know what @StevenToddIves thinks about Corey Pronman's description of McCarthy, especially that bolded part:

"Case McCarthy, D (No. 118): McCarthy has a good toolkit between his skating, skill and shot. He also has a physical component to his game. His decision-making with the puck leaves a lot to be desired, though."

 

[Ripshot 43]

So does the outrage start now or did I miss it 2 days ago of wither or not Case would sign with us or spend the 4 years in college and become a FA?

 

[Nubmer6]

So does the outrage start now or did I miss it 2 days ago of wither or not Case would sign with us or spend the 4 years in college and become a FA?

Oooh. We TOTALLY forgot to freak out about that! How could we???

 

[DatDude44]

Great kid, great family, great head on his shoulders. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him patrolling your blue line in 3 years in the realm of a Stephen Johns type. Which is fantastic as a 4th rounder.

 

[StevenToddIves]

I think this is a really great pick. However I would like to know what @StevenToddIves thinks about Corey Pronman's description of McCarthy, especially that bolded part:

"Case McCarthy, D (No. 118): McCarthy has a good toolkit between his skating, skill and shot. He also has a physical component to his game. His decision-making with the puck leaves a lot to be desired, though."

Pronman is not just wrong, he is extremely wrong. Though I am a big supporter of Pronman, sometimes his idealization of the defense position baffles me -- making the safe play and chipping the puck up the boards is not always the wrong choice. If you'd rather see an Anttoni Honka try to stickhandle out of the zone every time only to turn the puck over five times a game, that's up to you.

 

[Buffaloed]

Clarence Center's Case McCarthy hoping to represent USA at world juniors

He's been working with Nick Tuzzolino and following a training regimen designed by BU strength coach Kyle Czech. There's a lot of details in the article.

“I think obviously with the world junior camp, even more so, he kind of knew he was pushing for a shutdown type of role – first-pass, hard-nosed defenseman,” said Tuzzolino. “I think that’s his niche in New Jersey. ... His willingness to constantly go back and work on his weaknesses is everything. He’s so good at the little things because he doesn’t let himself off the hook on any of them when it comes to one-on-one private to a pro skate he was the least, frankly, quote unquote, pro on the ice. He won’t cut any corner whatsoever.”

Nobody messes with the Tuzzolino brothers lol
Nick Tuzzolino Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Tony Tuzzolino Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Clarence Center's Case McCarthy hoping to represent USA at world juniors

He's been working with Nick Tuzzolino and following a training regimen designed by BU strength coach Kyle Czech. There's a lot of details in the article.

“I think obviously with the world junior camp, even more so, he kind of knew he was pushing for a shutdown type of role – first-pass, hard-nosed defenseman,” said Tuzzolino. “I think that’s his niche in New Jersey. ... His willingness to constantly go back and work on his weaknesses is everything. He’s so good at the little things because he doesn’t let himself off the hook on any of them when it comes to one-on-one private to a pro skate he was the least, frankly, quote unquote, pro on the ice. He won’t cut any corner whatsoever.”

Nobody messes with the Tuzzolino brothers lol
Nick Tuzzolino Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
Tony Tuzzolino Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

David Hale, Matt DeMarchi, Seth Helgeson and Steve Santini. Please hit on one of these hard nosed college defensmen.

 

[Lou is God]

Bumping this to show this kid some love, just got a primary assist and is having a stellar season at BU.

 

[Tao Jersey Jones]

Case fished the puck out of traffic on the wall at the offensive blue line and backhanded it across to the opposite half board where Cockerill picked it up off the carom and took it in.

 

[Guttersniped]

Case fished the puck out of traffic on the wall at the offensive blue line and backhanded it across to the opposite half board where Cockerill picked it up off the carom and took it in.

And then is so busy doing his celly thing that he totally leaves Case hanging.