Foppa_Rules said:Not light years ahead, but he does seem to be a bit ahead because he is older despite having started playing at a later age. We'll see what Sydneykins does in the upcoming WJ Championship. I have no doubts that Sydneykins is good, but Ovechkin IS lightyears ahead in maturity.
Foppa_Rules said:I think he is kind of disgusting. Overconfident, ect. Besides, he's Ovechkin's rival.
xtra said:Think about this Canada NEEDS a Superstar on the Lemieux level thats why everyone is hyping everything thats there while Russia doesn't need for its ego that Superstar on the lemiuex level.
so what i am trying to say is that if the russians hyped Ovechkin like we are hyping crosby people would have given Ovechkin the Calder, Hart and Art Ross by now.
if you get what i mean
We've got Thornton and Bertuzzi, we don't NEED diddley squat.xtra said:Think about this Canada NEEDS a Superstar on the Lemieux level thats why everyone is hyping everything thats there while Russia doesn't need for its ego that Superstar on the lemiuex level.
so what i am trying to say is that if the russians hyped Ovechkin like we are hyping crosby people would have given Ovechkin the Calder, Hart and Art Ross by now.
if you get what i mean
Oi'll say! said:I'm going to go with Ovechkin on the original question, and yes that's based mostly on the fact that he's playing against men.
Crosby's 5-11, 183 lbs is enough to give him equal footing or even a slight edge in junior, but guys who physically dominate in junior are often overwhelmed by pros. Some of the stuff that he has success at in the q could get him punked in the nhl, a-la Eric Lindros.
Ovechkin is battled tested against fully mature professionals and should be physically ready for the nhl right from his first shift onwards. Advantage Ovechkin.
This is strictly in a have-to scenario. As a gm you take the "can't miss" guy, Ovechkin is closer to having proven that he will at least become a bonafide first line player than Crosby is.
On a hunch, or a gut feeling, Crosby is just rippin' it up man. Someone dissed the idea of focusing purely on stats earlier in this thread but the final score in every game is the only thing that matters. Sid is an offensive juggernaut right now and Ovechkin is just doing very well.
As a gm in a fantasy hockey pool I'd take Sid first, imo he has more potential to put up stupid numbers.
Oi'll say! said:I'm going to go with Ovechkin on the original question, and yes that's based mostly on the fact that he's playing against men.
Crosby's 5-11, 183 lbs is enough to give him equal footing or even a slight edge in junior, but guys who physically dominate in junior are often overwhelmed by pros. Some of the stuff that he has success at in the q could get him punked in the nhl, a-la Eric Lindros.
Oi'll say! said:I'm going to go with Ovechkin on the original question, and yes that's based mostly on the fact that he's playing against men.
Crosby's 5-11, 183 lbs is enough to give him equal footing or even a slight edge in junior, but guys who physically dominate in junior are often overwhelmed by pros. Some of the stuff that he has success at in the q could get him punked in the nhl, a-la Eric Lindros.
Ovechkin is battled tested against fully mature professionals and should be physically ready for the nhl right from his first shift onwards. Advantage Ovechkin.
This is strictly in a have-to scenario. As a gm you take the "can't miss" guy, Ovechkin is closer to having proven that he will at least become a bonafide first line player than Crosby is.
I agree with this 100%.
We can 'argue' this forever, we won't know for 5 or so years even the beginning of who was right. They might both be greats, they might both flop. Time will tell, but as of right now, I have to take Ovechkin over Crosby if I'm making the decision.