GDT: ♫ @ Otawwa Senaters 3pm eastern

[Oberyn]

what happened to bouwmeester? i didnt turn it on until very late

Took a hit and then raced to the bench right after. Not sure where the injury is.

 

[LGB51]

Figures when I finally bench Pietro because he just isn't scoring, he ends up putting up 2 assists.

 

[Lord Helix]

Took a hit and then raced to the bench right after. Not sure where the injury is.

His 10 key hand.

 

[frostyflo]

Figures when I finally bench Pietro because he just isn't scoring, he ends up putting up 2 assists.

please bench him again tomorrow!

 

[KirkOut]

Hope JBo is OK. we have another afternoon game tomorrow so he won't get a chance to rest if he needs to

 

[RR10*]

I'll take 2 points. But I'm not satisfied with the overall play. Two great games so far (LA, Caps) and 18 meh performances. Not sure if we have that extra gear. Stastny, Backes, Oshie, Berglund look way off offensively. Steen is atleast creating some offense. + to STL, Steen, Shatty, fourth line, both goalies. Minus to the rest.

 

[542365]

lol at Sens fans saying Petro has been invisible!
2 points
+2
5 blocked shots
good game overall, made Ottawas best players "invisible"

he's had a good game today!

also liked Ells, good positioning and movement, not much he could do on the goals against

For the most part he was invisible, which is a great thing when he has two assists. He had a very solid game. Karlsson was not invisible, for all the wrong reasons. Two breakaways while he was on the ice, Lehtera stripped him and fed Frank wide open in the slot, and Steen had a partial break when he was caught on the wrong side of the puck. He is not good defensively. He just isn't. He should honestly just make the full transition to forward. He'd be so much more dangerous.

 

[RR10*]

Hope JBo is OK. we have another afternoon game tomorrow so he won't get a chance to rest if he needs to

Not a big deal. J-bo has been like any invisible third pair defender in the league. Call up Lindbohm and you won't notice any difference.

 

[KirkOut]

Not a big deal. J-bo has been like any invisible third pair defender in the league. Call up Lindbohm and you won't notice any difference.

I agree 1000%. He is ECHL quality. I wish we still had Mark Cundari

 

[RR10*]

For the most part he was invisible, which is a great thing when he has two assists. He had a very solid game. Karlsson was not invisible, for all the wrong reasons. Two breakaways while he was on the ice, Lehtera stripped him and fed Frank wide open in the slot, and Steen had a partial break when he was caught on the wrong side of the puck. He is not good defensively. He just isn't. He should honestly just make the full transition to forward. He'd be so much more dangerous.

Karlsson wouldn't be a good forward imo. He would probably put up less points. He's a great offensive defenseman and usually not that bad on defense, but he gave up much in this game. So does Pie every game, and he is not even close to Karlssons offense. It's pathetic to read some posters here trying to make Pietrangelo look good after this game. Sure he did not do any damage, but I didnt see any of the $7m he gets.

 

[Lord Helix]

Karlsson wouldn't be a good forward imo. He would probably put up less points. He's a great offensive defenseman and usually not that bad on defense, but he gave up much in this game. So does Pie every game, and he is not even close to Karlssons offense. It's pathetic to read some posters here trying to make Pietrangelo look good after this game. Sure he did not do any damage, but I didnt see any of the $7m he gets.

Oh, boy...

 

[542365]

Karlsson wouldn't be a good forward imo. He would probably put up less points. He's a great offensive defenseman and usually not that bad on defense, but he gave up much in this game. So does Pie every game, and he is not even close to Karlssons offense. It's pathetic to read some posters here trying to make Pietrangelo look good after this game. Sure he did not do any damage, but I didnt see any of the $7m he gets.

This is just hysterical.

 

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[Vladys Gumption]

Not a big deal. J-bo has been like any invisible third pair defender in the league. Call up Lindbohm and you won't notice any difference.

That is completely and totally false. Bouwmeester needs to be better, but saying he's an invisible third pairing defenseman that wouldn't be noticiblely different than Lindbohm is ridiculous.

 

[BlueDream]

That's OK, I seriously saw a post on the asylum saying to trade Bouwmeester because Chris Butler could easily replace him.

 

[BlueDream]

Reminds me of a few years ago against Minny when they had that guy Bang (pronounced like the hippie accessory) and he could barely contain himself as he proclaimed "and Bang takes a big hit!"

That was Nashville.

 

[BlueDream]

What the hell are chans?

Oh my god this killed me.

 

[ManyIdeas]

That's OK, I seriously saw a post on the asylum saying to trade Bouwmeester because Chris Butler could easily replace him.

Haha.

I guess we can unlock Lappy and Steen's chin, right?

 

[LGB51]

After a good game like this for Elliot, will he get the start again tomorrow, or will they give him the day off and go with Allen?

*edit* Also, alomst forgot, **** Ottawa! I can't ****ing stand them.

 

[BlueMagic]

I don't understand why everyone isn't ecstatic about this team so far. The fact that they can play outside of their system and still win games because of their skill is something that really excites me. In the past years, if they weren't executing Hitchcock's game plan of dumping everything in and hitting everything in sight, we weren't winning games. We can't play that way every night and expect to have gas in the tank come playoff time. The season is still young and we are in great position. Just wait until everyone starts clicking. Look out!

 

[Alklha]

I'm not happy because there is no real progress on the issues we've had since the start of the season. We had players coming out in October talking about our need to be more aggressive, heading towards December and it is the same passive nonsense.

I don't really care about winning games at this point, we're going to be in the playoffs. I don't care about Stastny, Pietrangelo, Backes, whoever... they are good enough players that they'll find their games as the season goes along.

Start improving the basics and I'll be happy. The PK isn't going to improve until they stop being so passive, the PP numbers are going to fall like they did in the second half of last season unless we can get someone other than Shattenkirk consistently executing zone entries. The passive play goes beyond the PK, too comfortable just skating backwards even when we have the numbers advantage. There is no need to hit everything that moves, but there is a lack of physicality in how the team is playing. Don't go out of your way, but if the check is there then finish it, it'll buy you a split second on the next shift. Etc etc.

 

[Kshahdoo]

I'm not happy because there is no real progress on the issues we've had since the start of the season. We had players coming out in October talking about our need to be more aggressive, heading towards December and it is the same passive nonsense.

I don't really care about winning games at this point, we're going to be in the playoffs. I don't care about Stastny, Pietrangelo, Backes, whoever... they are good enough players that they'll find their games as the season goes along.

Start improving the basics and I'll be happy. The PK isn't going to improve until they stop being so passive, the PP numbers are going to fall like they did in the second half of last season unless we can get someone other than Shattenkirk consistently executing zone entries. The passive play goes beyond the PK, too comfortable just skating backwards even when we have the numbers advantage. There is no need to hit everything that moves, but there is a lack of physicality in how the team is playing. Don't go out of your way, but if the check is there then finish it, it'll buy you a split second on the next shift. Etc etc.

Yeah, right now Blues don't look like a contender. Of course, surprises are always possible, but they aren't intense enough, defense doesn't look good and scoring sucks.

 

[BlueMagic]

Yeah, right now Blues don't look like a contender. Of course, surprises are always possible, but they aren't intense enough, defense doesn't look good and scoring sucks.

The Kings have only won one game on the road this year. Do you think they're not a contender?

 

[Multimoodia]

The Kings have only won one game on the road this year. Do you think they're not a contender?

Well yeah, but the Kings have kind of "earned" that consideration since they have managed to sleep-walk through the regular season several times now.
The Blues haven't really done anything to deserve deference in this particular regard.

Plus they are having similar issues to the past couple of years (only one line scoring, etc. etc.) which are known to cause issues once they reach there.

 

[Multimoodia]

Not a big deal. J-bo has been like any invisible third pair defender in the league. Call up Lindbohm and you won't notice any difference.

Karlsson wouldn't be a good forward imo. He would probably put up less points. He's a great offensive defenseman and usually not that bad on defense, but he gave up much in this game. So does Pie every game, and he is not even close to Karlssons offense. It's pathetic to read some posters here trying to make Pietrangelo look good after this game. Sure he did not do any damage, but I didnt see any of the $7m he gets.

This.
So much this.


At this point I'm ready to trade both of them, and Jackman and Cole for scraps. None of them are worth more than a 4th round pick (all of them are so overpaid) and every other GM in the league knows it. That's why Armstrong hasn't justly traded them off by now, all of them have moved from depreciating assets to being toxic ones.

I'd start a new topic on the trade board regarding this, but too many other teams' posters would buy into the hype and would offer things like multiple picks and other possibly good players.
And we can't have that, people need to realize just how much all 4 of them are at AHL-replacement quality while being paid strong money.

Thank you for being the voice of reason.