Post-Game Talk: ZOOMERS CRUSH THE BOOMERS

[Fitzy]

I only saw the highlights on this one, but if Kakko was that good all game that kicks ass.

 

[RangerBoy]

I hope Gauthier can be traded and fetch a solid pick in return. 2nd rounder maybe.

The thing is, no matter how well he is playing — and he is playing well for sure! — you need guys like him to step up when games get heated, in rivalries during the regular season or the POs. Will Gauthier do that? He just don’t have an ounce of it in his body.

Rather bet on someone else. I am not too fond of don’t giving someone a second chance. But no matter what what he does now, it just seems so likely that — when we as a team need it the most, seasons are on the line — Gauthier will skate to bench looking down and handing over it to others.

Gauthier couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

 

[will1066]

I only saw the highlights on this one, but if Kakko was that good all game that kicks ass.

If you can watch the replay, I highly suggest it. It was Kids Night.

 

[RangerBoy]

I only saw the highlights on this one, but if Kakko was that good all game that kicks ass.

Kakko looks like the player from the 2019 World Championships. He was skating around the Islanders defensemen and using his strength to ward them off.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Gauthier couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

One would have thought the “reinvent yourself to stay in the NHL” alarm bell should have gone off by now.

 

[Richard Banger]

Best part of Kakko last night was when Barzel tried to defend him in OT and KK just threw him off like he was a gnat

 

[gravey9]

I hope Gauthier can be traded and fetch a solid pick in return. 2nd rounder maybe.

The thing is, no matter how well he is playing — and he is playing well for sure! — you need guys like him to step up when games get heated, in rivalries during the regular season or the POs. Will Gauthier do that? He just don’t have an ounce of it in his body.

Rather bet on someone else. I am not too fond of don’t giving someone a second chance. But no matter what what he does now, it just seems so likely that — when we as a team need it the most, seasons are on the line — Gauthier will skate to bench looking down and handing over it to others.

Not every player needs to drop the mitts or play a punishing style. Gauthier has size, speed and decent hands. If other big guys on the ice are banging and causing havoc it makes guys like Gauthier very successful because as you wear down opposing D, they will have a harder time preventing guys like gauthier, kakko, kreiders, Zib, blais and chytil from getting to the net. The thing I'm more worried about with players like gauth is about having a well rounded smart game. If he's keeping things simple and chips pucks past defenders, and can play a strong positional game in his own zone with a good stick then he's a valuable piece. If he wants to have a long career, he needs to figure out how to be effective in all zones. But he's not yet a well rounded player. And he's still needing to gain the trust of management. But just imagine if Gauth could ever become a solid PKer? He could easily become a bigger Grabner for us which would be a huge weapon. But he isn't that now.

That said, this narrative that every bigger, stronger player needs to play a punishing, gritty, in your face style is, well, grating. If you look at the Rangers lineup last night it was a very big lineup. Fox, Lindgren and Mckegg were like the only smaller players on the ice. If you have tons of size and skating ability throughout your lineup not everyone needs to be a meat grinder. When playing an attacking style, the overall team size will begin to overwhelm opponents and create more space/chances. The package of size and speed that Gauth has is only matched by CK and Fil. The speed of those three, when matched with the overall team size is going to wear down defenders more often than not if we're getting pucks deep.

 

[gravey9]

One would have thought the “reinvent yourself to stay in the NHL” alarm bell should have gone off by now.

I would argue it has. He's looked far more effective this preseason. But he's got a ways to go in all three zones.

 

[duhmetreE]

Gauthier couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

he is what he is. Jason Chimera type

He has great value if he learns to PK and play an aggressive 2way game. He could have a long NHL career with that

 

[Hockey Gamer]

Best part of Kakko last night was when Barzel tried to defend him in OT and KK just threw him off like he was a gnat

for sure. he showed great speed and strength there. he was totally an impact player last night.

 

[gravey9]

for sure. he showed great speed and strength there. he was totally an impact player last night.

The thing is, with his increased speed and strength, Kakko is likely going to realize pretty soon that if he wants to control the puck in the offensive zone, very few people will be able to take it away from him.

 

[leetch99]

It takes two to tango and nobody wants to dance with Tinordi

That is why Ross the Boss was after Lindgren at every chance .

 

[leetch99]

Yeah, unless you live in Canada or Finland, hockey will never beat out other sports unfortunately.

It's surprising how many soccer stories and video they do in the run of a week .Times have changed somewhat with so many immigrants now Canadian citizens in the last 20 -30 ? years Also....baseball and basketball when it involves the center of the universe Toronto clubs LOL...but yes for the most part if somebody like Price burps it is headline news 24/7 . McDavid not so much because he is in the West . Myself I am a 2 sport fan.....hockey and then baseball....don't care about the rest .

 

[Lion Hound]

I hope Gauthier can be traded and fetch a solid pick in return. 2nd rounder maybe.

The thing is, no matter how well he is playing — and he is playing well for sure! — you need guys like him to step up when games get heated, in rivalries during the regular season or the POs. Will Gauthier do that? He just don’t have an ounce of it in his body.

Rather bet on someone else. I am not too fond of don’t giving someone a second chance. But no matter what what he does now, it just seems so likely that — when we as a team need it the most, seasons are on the line — Gauthier will skate to bench looking down and handing over it to others.

If I was Gauthiers agent I would sit him down and tell him…Listen kid, don’t become Boo Nieves.

Gauthier and Boo Nieves are pretty much the same player.

They have better speed then 70% of the NHL
They have better speed then 95% of NHL 3rd and 4th liners

They have great size to go with the the wheels, and both are incredibly strong so they are so damn intriguing as players.

They both have creativity, and can put the arena at its feet when they use their size to drive the net.

Both are good at protecting the puck in traffic.

Both are cursed with one aspect of their games. They just can’t put the puck in the net, which is why neither of them are destined for top 6 minutes. If they had a scoring touch every GM in the league would be all over these players trying to get them on their respective rosters. Instead, the harsh reality of the situation is one of them at the ripe age of 27 years old is currently unsigned. The other, is fighting to keep his place on the roster.

If I’m Gauthiers agent I’d sit him him down and tell him straight. “Don’t Boo Nieves this kid” Play the game as physical as you possibly can. Engage. Stick up for your boys. Cause if a player with your tools can also play a scrappy role, every damn team in the league will come calling. If that doesn’t happen, it’s likely we won’t even be talking about him on the roster thread within the next 24 months.

 

[TominNC]

Not every player needs to drop the mitts or play a punishing style. Gauthier has size, speed and decent hands. If other big guys on the ice are banging and causing havoc it makes guys like Gauthier very successful because as you wear down opposing D, they will have a harder time preventing guys like gauthier, kakko, kreiders, Zib, blais and chytil from getting to the net. The thing I'm more worried about with players like gauth is about having a well rounded smart game. If he's keeping things simple and chips pucks past defenders, and can play a strong positional game in his own zone with a good stick then he's a valuable piece. If he wants to have a long career, he needs to figure out how to be effective in all zones. But he's not yet a well rounded player. And he's still needing to gain the trust of management. But just imagine if Gauth could ever become a solid PKer? He could easily become a bigger Grabner for us which would be a huge weapon. But he isn't that now.

That said, this narrative that every bigger, stronger player needs to play a punishing, gritty, in your face style is, well, grating. If you look at the Rangers lineup last night it was a very big lineup. Fox, Lindgren and Mckegg were like the only smaller players on the ice. If you have tons of size and skating ability throughout your lineup not everyone needs to be a meat grinder. When playing an attacking style, the overall team size will begin to overwhelm opponents and create more space/chances. The package of size and speed that Gauth has is only matched by CK and Fil. The speed of those three, when matched with the overall team size is going to wear down defenders more often than not if we're getting pucks deep.

OK, but if he's not using his size and speed to play a punishing game then he has to score now and then.

 

[OthmannOut]

I think this is the first time I've felt legitimate regret for not watching a preseason game. Seems like it was a banger.

 

[Ola]

Not every player needs to drop the mitts or play a punishing style. Gauthier has size, speed and decent hands. If other big guys on the ice are banging and causing havoc it makes guys like Gauthier very successful because as you wear down opposing D, they will have a harder time preventing guys like gauthier, kakko, kreiders, Zib, blais and chytil from getting to the net. The thing I'm more worried about with players like gauth is about having a well rounded smart game. If he's keeping things simple and chips pucks past defenders, and can play a strong positional game in his own zone with a good stick then he's a valuable piece. If he wants to have a long career, he needs to figure out how to be effective in all zones. But he's not yet a well rounded player. And he's still needing to gain the trust of management. But just imagine if Gauth could ever become a solid PKer? He could easily become a bigger Grabner for us which would be a huge weapon. But he isn't that now.

That said, this narrative that every bigger, stronger player needs to play a punishing, gritty, in your face style is, well, grating. If you look at the Rangers lineup last night it was a very big lineup. Fox, Lindgren and Mckegg were like the only smaller players on the ice. If you have tons of size and skating ability throughout your lineup not everyone needs to be a meat grinder. When playing an attacking style, the overall team size will begin to overwhelm opponents and create more space/chances. The package of size and speed that Gauth has is only matched by CK and Fil. The speed of those three, when matched with the overall team size is going to wear down defenders more often than not if we're getting pucks deep.

The thing is, someone like Gauthier needs ice and room to do well too. He is like Nash in that regard. Everyone most not drop the mitts, but you need everyone to contribute in the hardest games. I just see an overwhelming risk that Gauthier might do well for stretches, but that he will be a total non-factors when it matters.

 

[haveandare]

The thing is, someone like Gauthier needs ice and room to do well too. He is like Nash in that regard. Everyone most not drop the mitts, but you need everyone to contribute in the hardest games. I just see an overwhelming risk that Gauthier might do well for stretches, but that he will be a total non-factors when it matters.

Small sample but he did well last light against maybe the best team at limiting time and space

 

[haveandare]

Very encouraging to hang up 5 against the isles full lineup without panarin, zib or Kreider. Equally encouraging to not take a gram of their business without Reaves in.

 

[BBKers]

Gauthier was one of the TOP 3 consistent fwds in Preseason. Trade him for something > Him and Georgiev for Crouse and a pick... This is not a rumor.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

This was the game that I had my season expectations riding on. Isles have had our number for a little while now. We handled them and the best part is the kids did the heavy lifting.

 

[NYR Viper]

One would have thought the “reinvent yourself to stay in the NHL” alarm bell should have gone off by now.

It has. You can see him chipping pucks in and pressuring d-men. If this was a normal team, he’d be a 3rd liner. His size, strength and reach will be effective somewhere. Even if he settles in as a 15-15 guy

 

[ohbaby]

The Rangers would call Eichel day-to-day, though, to be fair.

Still better than going on the disabled list.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

McKegg-Barron-Hunt would be a legitimate 4th line on 2/3 the teams in the league and it’s our 5th or 6th line in the organization depth chart. That shows just how much our depth has improved.

 

[egelband]

Still better than going on the disabled list.

The “15 Day DL”. Good times.