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Gerstmann 3:16
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Jacob582 said:
No one is saying that it is detrimental or that he took the job so he could move Girgensons to center.

But does it hurt team morale if his decisions are swayed by outside bias?

For all we know maybe it won't be an issue. Maybe Nolan asked the captain about the team and he said there are too many gifted spots to rookies, but Pysyk and Girgensons belong on this team.
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Ya ok I'll leave you to your conspiracy theories.
 
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i believe his floor is a really good 3rd liner n his ceiling is a really good 2nd liner. i see him as a smaller, slightly less physical but better defensively version of lucic.
 
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Imlach a cup said:
Ya ok I'll leave you to your conspiracy theories.
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Not my conspiracy.

Bill Hoppe ‏@BillHoppeNHL 1h
Talk in #Sabres dressing room about youngsters being given spots instead of earning them.

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 1h
Multiple Sabres veterans say while kids tried hard, they were put in tough positions and not NHL ready. Need to earn their spots.
 
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Jacob582 said:
Vets don't like rookies being gifted roster spots.

My feeling is that the vets probably like Girgensons on the team. They don't feel that way about Grigorenko.
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My guess is that they also bristled a bit at Risto and Zads being in the lineup while Weber was a healthy scratch some nights. Weber's well-liked in the room. They may have also taken issue with the kids being in over McBain.
 
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Jacob582 said:
Not my conspiracy.

Bill Hoppe ‏@BillHoppeNHL 1h
Talk in #Sabres dressing room about youngsters being given spots instead of earning them.

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 1h
Multiple Sabres veterans say while kids tried hard, they were put in tough positions and not NHL ready. Need to earn their spots.
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That doesn't mean that every kid was gifted a spot.

Plus, a lot of that was pre-PL & TN
 
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Jacob582 said:
Not my conspiracy.

Bill Hoppe ‏@BillHoppeNHL 1h
Talk in #Sabres dressing room about youngsters being given spots instead of earning them.

John Vogl ‏@BuffNewsVogl 1h
Multiple Sabres veterans say while kids tried hard, they were put in tough positions and not NHL ready. Need to earn their spots.
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It's funny, when I brought this up prior to the season, I was mocked and told that these were professionals who understand the score.
 
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stokes84 said:
It's funny, when I brought this up prior to the season, I was mocked and told that these were professionals who understand the score.
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Nolan said on radio that players came to him and wanted to tell him who was working hard and who was slacking.

You know it is on their mind. With as bad as the team started. You know that there were problems in that locker room.
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Nolan's response was, he didn't want to hear it.
 
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Zman5778 said:
My guess is that they also bristled a bit at Risto and Zads being in the lineup while Weber was a healthy scratch some nights. Weber's well-liked in the room. They may have also taken issue with the kids being in over McBain.
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Or Cody being waived last year and sent to Rochester and other veterans getting scratched for guys like Grigorenko
 
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Larsson will (hopefully) be more than capable of handling checking line duties in the middle. I'm guessing they want Girgensons to be a two-way scoring winger with a physical game.

It does, at least, give some long - term clarity in regards to roles.
 
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WhoIsJimBob said:
It sounds like LaFontaine or someone else told Ted that ZG's future on the team was on the wing.
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Or they just wanted to see how succesful he's going to be against NHL-level opposition. :)

It seems like common knowledge now that Ted and Zemgus have worked together before, but the fact of the matter is that the time they've spent together in the Latvian national team was less than 10 days and just a couple of matches.

Nolan has seen him play in AHL before, but he played on the wing there as well.
 
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Maybe they feel that while he doesn't have the pedigree to be a "#1 Center" they think he could be a high-octane scoring line power winger. And since Hodgson ostensibly has the longterm #2C spot locked down, they'd rather plug him in on a scoring line wing than as a checking line winger.

That said, not sure I like it...
 
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Maybe they feel that while he doesn't have the pedigree to be a "#1 Center" they think he could be a high-octane scoring line power winger. And since Hodgson ostensibly has the longterm #2C spot locked down, they'd rather plug him in on a scoring line wing than as a checking line winger.

That said, not sure I like it...
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I actually like it, specifically for the reasons you outlined. With CoHo signed for a while, likely the only way he cracks the top two lines is as a winger, and while he would be an awesome grinder, I'd like to see how his offensive touch develops if given a chance in more of a scoring position. Not to mention he could potentially bring elements to our future top 6 that we've been lacking for a while.
 
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