RJMA
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Zegras - Unimpressive
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The Crypto Guy
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I'm impressed. He's a 21 year old about to put up back to back 60 point seasons playing with one of the worst rosters in the league.
Gurglesons
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No. He rocks. Watch him.
Also he was never going to be the main cog.
Also he was never going to be the main cog.
Breakfast of Champs
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If you are looking for the next Connor McDavid then maybe hes unimpressive? But definitely looks like a player who could be a star/superstar for many years. Pretty good
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He’s an improved Tim Connolly (hopefully without the injuries)
GeeoffBrown
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as it stands, the Ducks are the worst team in the league, so they will probably be adding a young piece that will take some of the pressure to be the "main cog" off of Zegras
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We are literally the worst defensive team of all time at this point (GA wise). We never have the puck.... if you aren't impressed by a 21 year old putting up these numbers.... on this roster than I suggest you torture yourself through a single entire Ducks game.... any single one of them and see for yourself.
Is he a good pick in the early 1st round? yes
Is he better then Jack Hughes like many people said in a poll a year or two ago? no
Is he better then Jack Hughes like many people said in a poll a year or two ago? no
Hes a good player.. But needs to manage his anger issues.. He acts like a spoiled brat sometimes.. Ive been a die hard ducks fan since 95.. I must admit.. Z has A LOT of growing up to do.. Defensively he needs to put in more work.. It will come.. Ducks need a good coach to teach these young guys how to defend as a team.. The offense is there.
Gil Gunderson
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He’s good, but probably the most overrated player in the league. Being American has definately boosted his marketability so far.
DamonDRW
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He reminds me a bit of Ryan Getzlaf. People were also saying he is nothing special until their teams meet Ducks in the playoffs.
I imagine Zegras is what we'd get if Rob Schremp had panned out
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Not a lot of players are going to be better than Jack Hughes.
Honestly, the only two that come to mind are Connor Mcdavid and Tim Stutzle
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Terry Yake
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he's on his way to a second straight 60 pt season playing on a historically terrible team
but yeah, unimpressive/meme player/etc
but yeah, unimpressive/meme player/etc
Elite player in the offensive zone with incredible vision and creativity, and will be able to quarterback a powerplay till the day he hangs them up. He's got a long, long ways to go in just about every other facet of the game, however. - A Kings fan
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Ducks play almost exclusively in their own zone.
This is not ideal for putting up points.
This is not ideal for putting up points.
ricky0034
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to be fair that was mostly just people here severely underrating Jack Hughes which doesn't really have anything to do with Zegras
he's lost polls to plenty of other guys that aren't anywhere near as good as Zegras is
I agree with your assessment
Biased Ducks fan here.. I have to disagree with you and I couldn't be anymore impressed by the progression from him AND McTavish this season. It's hard to emphasize just how truly god awful the team is as a whole, and while the D is the most obvious eye sore, the forward group is just so, so bad. No speed or space being created or any real system seemingly going on after they spend shifts drowning in their own zone. He still finds himself a good chunk of open ice each game and with that looks to be a threat for a goal or highlight reel assist at least once a game.
Will he be a 100 pt two way transitional beast?? I mean very likely not. But I see no reason why he can't reach being a PPG+ offensive whiz, who is hopefully sheltered enough defensively and transitionally by great linemates to make up for any shortcomings while having an impressive highlight reel each season. It also helps that unlike a Patrick Kane type(not saying he will have a better career!!!!!!), he has a little more size and willingness to play physically. And I get that people are a little annoyed at his on ice antics or have some weird vendetta because some HF posters once claimed he would be better than 'player X', but I really hope he is embraced as a continued face of the NHL going forward because he has the charisma and personality that is devoid in seemingly 99% of NHL players, which is something we NHL fans often bemoan.
Will he be a 100 pt two way transitional beast?? I mean very likely not. But I see no reason why he can't reach being a PPG+ offensive whiz, who is hopefully sheltered enough defensively and transitionally by great linemates to make up for any shortcomings while having an impressive highlight reel each season. It also helps that unlike a Patrick Kane type(not saying he will have a better career!!!!!!), he has a little more size and willingness to play physically. And I get that people are a little annoyed at his on ice antics or have some weird vendetta because some HF posters once claimed he would be better than 'player X', but I really hope he is embraced as a continued face of the NHL going forward because he has the charisma and personality that is devoid in seemingly 99% of NHL players, which is something we NHL fans often bemoan.
He's shown a lot of progression in those "other facets" compared to last year. Still a ways to go, but he seems to be figuring things out. Fewer bad decisions (with and without the puck) but my guess is those will never go away completely given his confidence and creativity. And that's ok.
He'll continue to develop and if the ducks ever surround him with more talent, he'll be really really good. All NHL caliber, though not generational. When you consider how bad the ducks are, his linemates, and how little puck possession they have, his current numbers are pretty remarkable.
I think the only long term issue for him (maybe) is the lack of size and strength. That hampers him on the defensive end. Right now, he's well above average at taking the puck away with his stick skills (i.e., in open ice) but that is not how you want to play defense and/or win puck battles.
As others have posted, he does have some maturity issues - mostly in his interaction with the refs. He needs to stop that or he will have a bullseye on him more than he already does.
He’s not a superstar and never will be. He’s a top 6 player with a ton of skill who likes to play flashy. He’ll peak at 80-90 points a couple of times as a one dimensional player. He’s a poor man’s Patrick Kane
To be really fair, if the poll was taken after JH first 157 games, he had 37G and 61 assists, which shouldn't lead anyone to believe he would certainly catch fire like he did. Zegras has 45G and 77 assists after his first 157. The kid is def cocky, but I'll take that over lacking confidence, and gripping the stick all day long. Both kids are fine young hockey players, and as silly as Hf can be at times, I've NEVER seen so much talk about a 9th overall 21 year old player being OVERRATED. If someone buys into media hype without watching a player, that's not the media's fault, it's their own fault. Guys his age or older selected 9th or earlier: Dach, Turcotte, Kakko, Svech, Kravtsov, Kotki, Hayton, Zadina, Hischier, Patrick, Glass, Lias A, Mitts, Rassmussen. Where dey at???? Last point I'll make is replace Derek Grant with Jesper Bratt, and put Zegras on the leagues 3rd best team instead of a team dead last with a -101 goal differential, and I'd bet dimes to donuts he has even better stats than he has now.
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He's relative xGF% is Bergeron tier. His defensive play is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. If anything, it's above average for a very young offensive player.
His team just happens to be a complete disaster, so even with him being ridiculously dominant compared to his teammates he's just treading water.
His team just happens to be a complete disaster, so even with him being ridiculously dominant compared to his teammates he's just treading water.
ricky0034
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if you only looked purely at the points he was putting up maybe, but if you watched him at all it was always incredibly obvious that Hughes was going to be a superstar eventually
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