Youtube: Zack Smith vs Robert Bortuzzo April 22 2013

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Zack Smith vs. Robert Bortuzzo



edit: see there's a thread already. My bad. Close this up.
 

Milan the God*

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Edge to Smith

Also, Orpik was going after Neil the whole game. Yet Orpik wouldn't fight, despite having the visor advantage right away. I'd hope Neil wouldn't fight MacIntyre, who's in a different weight class and is pretty useless on the ice.

zack smith is a tough little middle weight im suprised he doesnt drop em more. and thats textbook neil

Well, he used to be one of those "only fight if you really need to" type of players. Solid defensively, solid offensively and could hit. This year he added a good faceoff ability, but completely lost his offensive game.
 

OUTHOUSE

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Neil must've shat his pants when he saw Big Mac arrive lol.

Yeah I was dying of laughter when I saw that. Especially since Neil is an entire weight class below! Who doesn't want to accept a fight with someone a full weight class above them? I don't get it.
 

Xavier Laflamme*

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No such thing as halfway crooks!!! Neil wants to play tough guy...until a tough guy comes. Mac should have just forced him to fight lol.
 

CanadianHockey

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Neil's a middleweight. Why should he be obliged to go with any heavy who challenges him? As it is he already goes with more heavies than any other middleweight fighter.

Orpik was giving extra shots all game, Neil was clearly trying to get him to answer for that. MacIntyre trying to jump in means jack and all.
 

tarheelhockey

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Also, Orpik was going after Neil the whole game. Yet Orpik wouldn't fight, despite having the visor advantage right away. I'd hope Neil wouldn't fight MacIntyre, who's in a different weight class and is pretty useless on the ice.

Orpik has 1 fight in the past 4 seasons, and he is supposed to fight Neil because Neil says so.

However, Neil doesn't have to fight the actual enforcer who is standing right in front of him, because Neil will probably lose.


Yeah, ok. That doesn't sound AT ALL like rationalizing Neil's behavior.
 

umma gumma

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Neil's a middleweight. Why should he be obliged to go with any heavy who challenges him? As it is he already goes with more heavies than any other middleweight fighter.

Orpik was giving extra shots all game, Neil was clearly trying to get him to answer for that. MacIntyre trying to jump in means jack and all.


Orpik has 1 fight in the past 4 seasons, and he is supposed to fight Neil because Neil says so.

However, Neil doesn't have to fight the actual enforcer who is standing right in front of him, because Neil will probably lose.


Yeah, ok. That doesn't sound AT ALL like rationalizing Neil's behavior.
Really guys? Could have sworn I clicked on the Smith and Bortuzzo thread.
 

Steve Durbano

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Nobody said Neil was stupid. Big Mac is one step away from a police chase followed by a shoot out. Neil was outclassed.

However, don't anybody say that Cooke is a -----y for not fighting Neil for the same reason.
 

tacogeoff

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If Mac would of wanted to fight Neil he would of dropped his gloves and grabbed on to neil. Obviously he didnt want to force anything against Neil so he didn't. Big Mac is enforcing nothing besides trying to protect orpik by grabbing on to neil and pushing him away. I dont even think he has a fight this year actually ?

decent fight between Smith and bort, a pretty even draw.
 
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umma gumma

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The fight wasn’t close at all, the angle from the Ottawa feed showed it to be a clear win for Smith. In this video the whole time they’re showing Neil, Orpik and McIntyre the other two are going at it and by the time the producer switched to this fight is was pretty much done.
 

MichiganWolverines

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Everyone knew that this situation would happen. Matt Cooke declines Chris Neil, and Chris Neil declines Steve MacIntyre.

Steve MacIntyre should have forced Chris Neil in a fight. He should have dropped his gloves, and if Chris Neil declines, then throw a punch at his jaw (hopefully it results in a knock-out).

Steve MacIntyre is a scary enforcer, he has knock-out power in both of his hands (he is a switched hand fighter).
 

bud12

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If Mac would of wanted to fight Neil he would of dropped his gloves and grabbed on to neil. Obviously he didnt want to force anything against Neil so he didn't. Big Mac is enforcing nothing besides trying to protect orpik by grabbing on to neil and pushing him away. I dont even think he has a fight this year actually ?

decent fight between Smith and bort, a pretty even draw.

It was is first game of the year in the nhl...
 

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Come on Ottawa fans, Neil is not a middle weight he is a light heavy who can fight heavy, in a lot of threads before (specially leaf fighters threads) leaf fans usually bring up the argument Neil is a ***** who runs around chirping and picks fights he knows he can win and then dodges the true enforcers, and then Ottawa fans usually respond by saying Neil will fight anyone look at his past history (then they name a bunch of enforcers and usually say look he beat Orr this year, which is true and props to him). But this video kind of sums up what the leaf fans argument is, Neil goes after Orpik (someone who never fights) then shy's away from McIntyre a true enforcer. I don't like Neil, mostly because i am a leaf fan but if i was an Ottawa fan i would probably love him so i can see why you guys defend him, hes a good hockey player and a really good fighter but he probably should have fought McIntyre here because 1) he was running around all game chirping and doing what he does and then he got challenged, and 2) his team was down 2-0 in a critical game that they needed to win, mabye that fight could have sparked his team in front of the home crowd and they come out in the Second period flying.
 

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Smith wins

I like Bortuzzo and he is tough but man he just has poor balance or something he is always falling over. I doubt he ever wins many fights because of that

ps - Neil is a sissy
 

tacogeoff

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Come on Ottawa fans, Neil is not a middle weight he is a light heavy who can fight heavy, in a lot of threads before (specially leaf fighters threads) leaf fans usually bring up the argument Neil is a ***** who runs around chirping and picks fights he knows he can win and then dodges the true enforcers, and then Ottawa fans usually respond by saying Neil will fight anyone look at his past history (then they name a bunch of enforcers and usually say look he beat Orr this year, which is true and props to him). But this video kind of sums up what the leaf fans argument is, Neil goes after Orpik (someone who never fights) then shy's away from McIntyre a true enforcer. I don't like Neil, mostly because i am a leaf fan but if i was an Ottawa fan i would probably love him so i can see why you guys defend him, hes a good hockey player and a really good fighter but he probably should have fought McIntyre here because 1) he was running around all game chirping and doing what he does and then he got challenged, and 2) his team was down 2-0 in a critical game that they needed to win, mabye that fight could have sparked his team in front of the home crowd and they come out in the Second period flying.


I wouldnt call it a challange. Mac came over to their scrum and tried to break Orpik away from Neil and did not do anything to "challenge" neil. Maybe if they were Mic'd up we would actually know what happened. From the reply I watched all it seemed like was that Mac didnt want Orpik to drop them but so tried to break them apart but he didnt get in Neils face or do anything physically that would indicate a "challenge"

Didnt see the actually full game as I was watching my Jets try to grasp a playoff spot. Hopefully Peluso is back so I can spew on about him dropping the mitts :yo:

Down with the capitals!
 

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