Zach Parise has 33 goals in his last 59 games

[Digitalbooya]

Scored today.

Just a little over a year ago he couldn’t go out to eat without having to lie down in the back of his Tahoe:
Zach Parise's long road from the trunk of an SUV to scoring...

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[Bazeek]

Overpaid liability. His injuries have destroyed him.

 

[Helistin]

I heard he still makes all his road trips in the trunk of an SUV.

 

[Regal]

I heard he still makes all his road trips in the trunk of an SUV.

Being in the trunk of a car sounds more like a New Jersey thing

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Overpaid liability. His injuries have destroyed him.

Not this season.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Not this season.

That was a sarcastic response. Bazeek is a wild fan.

 

[ffh]

Hf boards told me that players his age couldn't do this.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

Overpaid liability. His injuries have destroyed him.

Why do people do this?

It’s like when a player is something and is called that thing and rightfully so, then all of the sudden comes out of no where to prove he can be more then that but was still that for a long, long, long time ....that all of that suddenly means nothing?

Parise was for a long time, an overpaid (compared to others at the time) liability. And he still is one. The wild are in post prime iginla kiprusoff territory with parise and suter and hAve been for a decade.

Too bad to be great, and too good not to suck.

 

[BonMorrison]

Sure proved me wrong, thought he was pretty much done tbh

 

[Bazeek]

Why do people do this?

It’s like when a player is something and is called that thing and rightfully so, then all of the sudden comes out of no where to prove he can be more then that but was still that for a long, long, long time ....that all of that suddenly means nothing?

Parise was for a long time, an overpaid (compared to others at the time) liability. And he still is one. The wild are in post prime iginla kiprusoff territory with parise and suter and hAve been for a decade.

Too bad to be great, and too good not to suck.

Two reasons:

1.) It's an ongoing response to a silly post from a Wild fan the other day saying he was only worth $5m, in a year where he's been killing it. So it's mostly for my own amusement.
2.) There are a lot of people on these forums that made up their minds in 2011 exactly how the Suter and Parise contracts would play out. For the most part these people do not care about the Wild, do not pay attention to the Wild, and are only vaguely aware that the Wild exist. Which is cool. But every single time those contracts come up they pop out to rehash a conclusion they came to 7 years ago, regardless of what either player has done or is currently doing. Suter's been an "overpaid albatross" for 7 years while being one of the best defensemen in the league. Parise's back was a huge problem for him for the better part of 2 seasons, but it's been a year since he came back from surgery and he's looked great ever since. The guy could score 40 this year and you'd have the same people chiming in with "Can't believe he's getting paid $7.5m!"

Yes, there's no way he'll live up to the cap hit for the duration of that contract. That was a given when he signed it, but those were "the rules" of the UFA game at the time. But all things considered, having him bounce back this well post-surgery is a very promising sign.

 

[Dondini]

Good for him. Talented player at the age of 34 pretty impressive to have 33 goals in his last 59 games. Hope he can have a 35-40 goal season this year

 

[Revelation]

Two reasons:

1.) It's an ongoing response to a silly post from a Wild fan the other day saying he was only worth $5m, in a year where he's been killing it. So it's mostly for my own amusement.
2.) There are a lot of people on these forums that made up their minds in 2011 exactly how the Suter and Parise contracts would play out. For the most part these people do not care about the Wild, do not pay attention to the Wild, and are only vaguely aware that the Wild exist. Which is cool. But every single time those contracts come up they pop out to rehash a conclusion they came to 7 years ago, regardless of what either player has done or is currently doing. Suter's been an "overpaid albatross" for 7 years while being one of the best defensemen in the league. Parise's back was a huge problem for him for the better part of 2 seasons, but it's been a year since he came back from surgery and he's looked great ever since. The guy could score 40 this year and you'd have the same people chiming in with "Can't believe he's getting paid $7.5m!"

Yes, there's no way he'll live up to the cap hit for the duration of that contract. That was a given when he signed it, but those were "the rules" of the UFA game at the time. But all things considered, having him bounce back this well post-surgery is a very promising sign.

Practically everyone thought and still thinks that Suter was on an amazing contract for a cerebral poised #1 defenseman who played a Lidstrom-lite game that wouldn't really drop off with age due to his style of play. Parise on the other hand was seen as a winger version of Mike Richards, undersized guy who plays a punishing grinding game and is an injury magnet. They have completely different on ice impact, durability and probability of their style of play dropping off in their 30s. The only thing common about them is their identical contracts. You might as well compare Carey Price and Jonathan Toews because they're paid the same.

 

[raymond23]

That's a big woah moment to me

 

[Bazeek]

Practically everyone thought and still thinks that Suter was on an amazing contract for a cerebral poised #1 defenseman who played a Lidstrom-lite game that wouldn't really drop off with age due to his style of play. Parise on the other hand was seen as a winger version of Mike Richards, undersized guy who plays a punishing grinding game and is an injury magnet. They have completely different on ice impact, durability and probability of their style of play dropping off in their 30s. The only thing common about them is their identical contracts. You might as well compare Carey Price and Jonathan Toews because they're paid the same.

It's not quite the same. It's not a coincidence that they're on the same contract: they deliberately signed identical contracts to play together. So in a very real sense we can't separate the two contracts because we wouldn't have one without the other. If you think Suter's contract is great and Parise's is awful that's fine, but you have to factor in that Parise's is effectively part of Suter's (and vice versa).

 

[Dicky113]

Wow, I had no idea - thought he was toast

 

[Revelation]

It's not quite the same. It's not a coincidence that they're on the same contract: they deliberately signed identical contracts to play together. So in a very real sense we can't separate the two contracts because we wouldn't have one without the other. If you think Suter's contract is great and Parise's is awful that's fine, but you have to factor in that Parise's is effectively part of Suter's (and vice versa).

Like comparing Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews then

 

[Wo Yorfat]

Wow, I had no idea - thought he was toast

I'm super out of touch this yr in terms of around the league, but I would've found 8 goals in 59 games just as believable.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Well, that settles it. Clearly this was a great contract. Can't dispute it at this point. Those 59 games obviously prove he'll be a contributing asset for the next 6 (six) years remaining on his deal.

 

[Bazeek]

Like comparing Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews then

More so, yeah.

 

[Bazeek]

Well, that settles it. Clearly this was a great contract. Can't dispute it at this point. Those 59 games obviously prove he'll be a contributing asset for the next 6 (six) years remaining on his deal.

Unlikely, but if he can be a 20-25 goal guy for 3-4 of those 6 years the contract's a much smaller problem than people were ranting about originally.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Clever timing to post this, right before the Ottawa game, insuring a jinx will not materialize.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Anyone care to speculate why Parise, in his 34yo season with MN, is about to have his best year in the state of hockey yet? I can understand why he didn’t put up these numbers during his 2 year back epedemic, but how come when he was 28-31 he wasn’t putting up 40 goal seasons and 80 points?

 

[Nsjohnson]

Well, that settles it. Clearly this was a great contract. Can't dispute it at this point. Those 59 games obviously prove he'll be a contributing asset for the next 6 (six) years remaining on his deal.

Glad that settles it.

 

[StreetHawk]

Anyone care to speculate why Parise, in his 34yo season with MN, is about to have his best year in the state of hockey yet? I can understand why he didn’t put up these numbers during his 2 year back epedemic, but how come when he was 28-31 he wasn’t putting up 40 goal seasons and 80 points?

Different era. Even though it was a couple years ago. From the 4 full seasons after the last work stoppage from 13-14 to 16-17 seasons there were fewer than 20 skaters who finished the season with 70 points per season. Last year we saw a massive spike in 70 plus point guys.

To compare players today to what guys 5 years earlier were doing you kind of have to instead look at where they were in points relative to the rest of the league. Was a guy who put up 66 points in 15-16 the 34th highest scorer that season. What was the 34th highest scorer putting up last season? 74?

 

[Backhandbeauty]

Nice. I figured he wasn't producing anything. I only ever hear about him anymore in regards to bad contracts.