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Sure, while we're at it, how about Paquette for Little?Maybe something around Lowry for Johnson?
Sure, while we're at it, how about Paquette for Little?Maybe something around Lowry for Johnson?
If that's what you're offering, forget Trouba altogether.Trouba or Myers
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some combo of Johnson, Killorn, prospects, draft picks, Koekkoek.
Trouba or Myers
for
some combo of Johnson, Killorn, prospects, draft picks, Koekkoek.
My personal opinion, which does not represent anyone but myself, is that excluding the obvious untouchables (91-86-77), there are three options for the basis of the package from Tampa:
The terminology of top 6 and bottom 6 is becoming antiquated. The difference from the #2 to #3 lines on a lot of teams now is minimal. You need to roll 4 lines these days if you are going to be successful.
"Obvious" untouchables from Tampa. Who could they be?Don't do that. We're not supposed to remember every player's number in 31 teams and then other leagues.
"Obvious" untouchables from Tampa. Who could they be?
Not that I needed clarification, but yes.Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasilevskiy
That's four already. Tsk tsk. No idea what Maukkis meant.Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasilevskiy
Sergachev and Point too IMO.Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman, Vasilevskiy
You're not getting Trouba for that? Any deal involiving Trouba starts with Sergachev and no way Yzerman deals Sergachev.Trouba or Myers
for
some combo of Johnson, Killorn, prospects, draft picks, Koekkoek.
As others have said, I really don't think we're looking for a big trade at this point of the season. We have 8 defensemen at the moment so trading Sustr or Koekkoek wouldn't be a big surprise.
Agree. Our D is fine. Adding Trouba is a luxury at this point. They may revisit it in the offseason. If the rumor is true that he wants to come to Tampa because his gf lives close then maybe this is something that happens next offseason. Right now Dotchin is playing his role just fine. Trouba is an upgrade sure but right now it would either cost Sergachev who I don’t think we want to trade or Johnson ++ which leaves open our 3C spot which Yzerman would have to fill internally or through trade. If we couldn’t fill internally we would have to give up more assets. Which just doesn’t sound like something SY would do.
Unless SY is able to escape like a bandit in this by only having to give up picks and prospects then I don’t see why TB would trade for Trouba. We just don’t need him at this point. Someone who could play with Johnson would be much more appealing in the short term future. Next offseason is a time where we would possibly explore a trade for Trouba if that is true, but for now any talk of Trouba to TB doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me unless the trade details end up different than I think they would.
Agree. Our D is fine. Adding Trouba is a luxury at this point. They may revisit it in the offseason. If the rumor is true that he wants to come to Tampa because his gf lives close then maybe this is something that happens next offseason. Right now Dotchin is playing his role just fine. Trouba is an upgrade sure but right now it would either cost Sergachev who I don’t think we want to trade or Johnson ++ which leaves open our 3C spot which Yzerman would have to fill internally or through trade. If we couldn’t fill internally we would have to give up more assets. Which just doesn’t sound like something SY would do.
Unless SY is able to escape like a bandit in this by only having to give up picks and prospects then I don’t see why TB would trade for Trouba. We just don’t need him at this point. Someone who could play with Johnson would be much more appealing in the short term future. Next offseason is a time where we would possibly explore a trade for Trouba if that is true, but for now any talk of Trouba to TB doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me unless the trade details end up different than I think they would.
Tend to agree on this one though I have to wonder if the trade could be more than just Trouba and Copp would be the piece replacing Johnson on the 3rd line at 1/5th the cost and is more suited for that role and is very good friends with Trouba. It makes sense CAP wise down the road as well as TBL will be a CAP team for the foreseeable future and with Point taking over and pushing Johnson down the depth chart his 5M cap hit might be high for his role. Spit balling but Johnson+Sergachev for Trouba+Copp with additions likely on either side for Balance.
On July 1st, 2018.This doesn't really pertain to this trade per se and is more of a general question, but I have seen people say they want to trade Johnson before his NMC kicks in at the end of the year. When exactly is that? Like the day the SCF ends, the day of the draft, the day next season starts, or what?
They could negotiate an extension with him today if he were their property.Not saying that I think a Trouba deal is likely, but another advantage to TB to wait until the summer to discuss trading for Trouba is that it would allow TB to negotiate an extension as well.
The terminology of top 6 and bottom 6 is becoming antiquated. The difference from the #2 to #3 lines on a lot of teams now is minimal. You need to roll 4 lines these days if you are going to be successful.
Buff is more of a #2 pairing D man now. Maurice loves him, and he likes his vets. He's better off as a #3 IMO. Sort of like Dion Phaneuf is now too in Ottawa. Regardless, if you watched him in the Cup finals the first time the Hawks won the cup under the Toews era, it was the most impactful I have seen him play.
He was so impactful that cup run as a power winger. I know it was awhile ago, but here is a reminder in case you forgot. Net presence, and big goals. We are only speculating but if TB added this type of presence for their fwd group. Oh my, they would be scary good and they are terrific already.
Um... Okay.Sure, while we're at it, how about Paquette for Little?
I'm so used to the Jets announcers saying Dustin Byfuglien to the point that I forget he was a Hawk (I do remember of course).