Yzerman Re-Defining Approach

[HoseEmDown]

The way Yzerman handled the Kuch contract imo will bite the lightning in the arse when his contract is up. Basically he told Kuch you are the least important player on this team, even though he has arguably been the best player the past 2 years.

That's exactly what he did, without that long-term deal Kucherov has no security for his future, he's probably going to be living on the streets in a few years.

 

[Byrddog]

Have any offer sheets happened under the current CBA? If so, how many have resulted in a RFA leaving their team? It could happen but the CBA horribly favors teams over the RFA.

Ryan O'Riley had a signed offer sheet from Calgary under this contract. There have been 8 signed under since the Cap was initiated. Dustin Penner is the only player that changes teams going from the Duck to the Oilers. The remaining offers were matched. So it happens The penalty now of pick adjusted by contract total causes pause in most cases.

If a team has for example a 1C or a 1D guy I can see GM's taking a chance. For example Ekblad if he had been in that situation you can bet a team like the Oilers would gladly give up 4 pick to land that 1D. A team that goes years without that guy can draft the best defensman in the draft 4 years in a row and theres no guarantee any of them will develop into that 1D.

You have to think that Yzer made it clear to Kuch that he needed help for three years to get the rest of his core resigned and Kuch can cash in then. If players want to remain on a high performing team with chances at multiple cups they have to be reasonable. Too many teams throw out too much of there cap to tweeners and get into trouble when they need to sign the real producers. If you have 10 guys on a team making more than 5 mil its tough to ice 23 and be competitive for a cup.

Until the league starts making money the GM's are going to have to control what they spend and the players and the union better understand it or there will be another lost year at the end of this contract and then the pain will really be felt by both.

 

[PaulGG]

Ryan O'Riley had a signed offer sheet from Calgary under this contract. There have been 8 signed under since the Cap was initiated. Dustin Penner is the only player that changes teams going from the Duck to the Oilers. The remaining offers were matched. So it happens The penalty now of pick adjusted by contract total causes pause in most cases.

If a team has for example a 1C or a 1D guy I can see GM's taking a chance. For example Ekblad if he had been in that situation you can bet a team like the Oilers would gladly give up 4 pick to land that 1D. A team that goes years without that guy can draft the best defensman in the draft 4 years in a row and theres no guarantee any of them will develop into that 1D.

You have to think that Yzer made it clear to Kuch that he needed help for three years to get the rest of his core resigned and Kuch can cash in then. If players want to remain on a high performing team with chances at multiple cups they have to be reasonable. Too many teams throw out too much of there cap to tweeners and get into trouble when they need to sign the real producers. If you have 10 guys on a team making more than 5 mil its tough to ice 23 and be competitive for a cup.

Until the league starts making money the GM's are going to have to control what they spend and the players and the union better understand it or there will be another lost year at the end of this contract and then the pain will really be felt by both.

Thanks. No clue what Steve Y said to him but I sure am happy we have him for at least 3 more years . I found this on WIKI that is also interesting.

"Penner is also the only player since 1997 (Chris Gratton) to change teams via an offer sheet. So only two players in almost 20 years."

 

[kuch]

That's exactly what he did, without that long-term deal Kucherov has no security for his future, he's probably going to be living on the streets in a few years.

 

[Sky04]

Obviously Yzerman signed him short term and for cheap because he's a KHL flight risk, pretty cut and clear, if he was Canadian and played with some heart guy would've been secured before Killorn.

 

[kuch]

Obviously Yzerman signed him short term and for cheap because he's a KHL flight risk, pretty cut and clear, if he was Canadian and played with some heart guy would've been secured before Killorn.

Lol so he is a KHL flight risk, even though he could have very easily got a contract done while he was there. And to say he has no heart is just ridiculous.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Lol so he is a KHL flight risk, even though he could have very easily got a contract done while he was there. And to say he has no heart is just ridiculous.

Do you know what sarcasm is?

 

[kuch]

Do you know what sarcasm is?

Without smiles ..no i do can not read sarcasm, maybe i just to old

 

[Hoek]

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Without smiles ..no i do can not read sarcasm, maybe i just to old

Ok, well, around these parts we have this thing called...

..."getting Hosed." You can see why we might call it that if you look at the name of the most recent comment you disagreed with. We like to have fun with one another around here.

 

[chasespace]

That was a good laugh

 

[ultra63]

"Grading Steve Yzerman"

http://www.rawcharge.com/2016/10/17/13300926/grading-steve-yzerman

" Hired Julien BriseBois as Assistant GM
Grade: A+

Hired Jon Cooper as AHL Coach
Grade: A+++

Signed junior free agent Tyler Johnson
Grade: A+++

2011 Draft
Grade: A+++


Acquired Kyle Quincey from Colorado for Steve Downie and acquired a 2012 first round pick from Detroit for Kyle Quincey
Grade: A+


Traded Sebastien Caron, two 2012 second round picks, and a 2013 third round pick for Anders Lindback, Kyle Wilson, and a 2012 seventh round pick.
Grade: F


Signed Matt Carle to six year contract
Grade: D

Promoted Jon Cooper to head coach of the Lightning
Grade: A+++

Traded Cory Conacher and a 2013 fourth round pick for Ben Bishop
Grade: A+


Bought out Vincent Lecavalier
Grade: A+


Traded Martin St. Louis and a 2nd round pick for Ryan Callahan, two first round picks, and Daniel Walcott
Signed Ryan Callahan to six year extension
Grade: A+"

I wonder if the author is related to Cooper

 

[Leonardo87]

I like that author. LOL.

This is what I've constantly stressed on here...

As far as Callahan’s contract, he provided 24 goals and 54 points in his first full season with the Lightning. A reduced role and injuries limited him to 28 points in 73 games in the second year. I’m not ready to fully judge this contract until we see how he bounces back this season and next. He provides leadership in the locker room, energy on the ice, and solid penalty kill play. He also is cited as a big reason for Anton Stralman and Brian Boyle signing with the Lightning.