Your opinion on these players

[Hawaiibros]

So I would like to see how you rank these players please give ceiling and floor. Please use the following system
10= generational (ex. Mcdavid, Crosby)
9= perennial all star (ex. Kane, Kucherov)
8= top 6 f/top 3 d (ex. Oshie, Trouba)
7= role player (ex. Helm, Smith-Pelly)
6 or below= fringe nhler (Jensen, alot of people)

Also grade them on likely hood to reach that potential on %. And their style of play (something like offensive d or sniper or playmaker). Be as picky as you want.

So an example would be
Dahlin 9.5 (70%) 7.5 two way defenseman

1. Dahlin
2. Svetchnikov
3. Dobson
4. Zadina
5. Bouchard
6. Tkachuk
7. Boquist
8. Hughes
9. Wahlstrom
10. Farabee
11. Kotkoniemi
12. Smith
13. Veleno
14. Kupari
15. Wilde
16. Olafsson
17. Hayton
18. Sandin
19. Alexeyev
20. Kravstov
21. Kaut
22. Lundestrom
23. Miller
24. Lundquist
25. Dellandrea
26. Bernard
27. Woo
28. McIssac
29. Denisenko
30. Thomas
31. Bokk

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[LeonTheKing]

10.0 = generational (ex. Mcdavid, Crosby)
9.5 = franchise player (Karlsson E,)
9.0 = perennial all star player (ex. Tarasenko, Kucherov)
8.5 = 1st line f/1st pair d (Monahan)
8.0 = top 6 f/top 4 d (ex. Oshie)
7.5 = top9 f/top 6 d (Eller)
7.0 = role player (ex. Helm, Smith-Pelly)
6.5 or below= fringe nhler (Jensen)

1. Dahlin; ceiling 9.5 (80%), floor 8.5
= probably franchise d-man, but even if he doesn't reach expectations, he'll still be a 1st pair all star level d-man

2. Svechnikov; ceiling 9.5 (40%), floor 8.5
= he should be a perennial all star player no doubts, but there is a slightly chance of him being a franchise player. Anyway, floor is high for this guy, he is definitely going to be a 1st line player

3. Dobson; ceiling 8.5 (80%), floor 8.0
= I don't see being Dobson as good to be a perennial all star player but he can be a solid 1st pairing d-man

4. Zadina; ceiling 9.0 (60%), floor 8.0
= realistically, Zadina should be a solid 1st line player, but I see like 60% he could be a perennial all star player. However, if he isn't able to fully translate his offensive game to the NHL, he'll be just a TOP 6 player

5. Bouchard; ceiling 8.5 (60%), floor 7.5
= if he doesn't improve his skating, he is going to bust

6. Tkachuk; ceiling 8.0 (90%), floor 8.0
= I couldn't imagine Tkachuk of being anything else than a great TOP6 player. Both ceiling and floor is there

7. Boqvist; ceiling 9.0 (40%), floor 7.0
= low floor, high ceiling player

8. Hughes; ceiling 8.5 (75%), floor 8.0
= his hockey IQ is why his floor is so high

9. Wahlstrom; ceiling 8.5 (75%), floor 8.0
= this guy is going to be cemeneted in someone's TOP6 for very long time

10. Farabee; ceiling 8.0 (85%), floor 8.0
= probably 2nd line energy winger with high floor

11. Kotkaniemi; ceiling 8.5 (70%), floor 8.0
= high potential is there, but I can see him as great 2C

12. Smith; ceiling 8.5 (65%), floor 7.5
= slightly chance of Smith becoming a solid 1st pairing d-man, realistically can see him as reliable TOP4 d-man

13. Veleno; ceiling 8.0 (90%), floor 7.5
= he is going to be a reliable TOP 6 player

14. Kravtsov; ceiling 8.5 (65%), floor 7.0
= high floor, low ceiling

 

[LeonTheKing]

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[Habs76]

So I would like to see how you rank these players please give ceiling and floor. Please use the following system
10= generational (ex. Mcdavid, Crosby)
9= perennial all star (ex. Kane, Kucherov)
8= top 6 f/top 3 d (ex. Oshie, Trouba)
7= role player (ex. Helm, Smith-Pelly)
6 or below= fringe nhler (Jensen, alot of people)

Also grade them on likely hood to reach that potential on %. And their style of play (something like offensive d or sniper or playmaker). Be as picky as you want.

So an example would be
Dahlin 9.5 (70%) 7.5 two way defenseman

1. Dahlin - 9.5 (75%) - 8.5 -- Two-way defenseman, does everything
2. Svechnikov - 9.5 (50%) - 8.5 -- Power winger
3. Dobson - 9.0 (30%) - 8.0 -- Puck-moving defenseman, more defensively apt than offensive.
4. Zadina - 8.5 (50%) - 7.5 - Sniper who can disappear for long chunks of a game, not a play driver.
5. Bouchard - 8.5 (60%) - 7.5 - Offensive defenseman firsr and foremost, mainly contributing with his sheer volume of SOG
6. Tkachuk - 8.5 (20%) - 7.0 - Powerful, greasy winger
7. Boqvist - 9.0 (10%) - 6.5 - Smart, smooth, puck-moving defenseman
8. Hughes - 9.0 (10%) - 6.5 - Elite skating defenseman who can weave through traffic
9. Wahlstrom - 8.5 (50%) - 7.5 - Fast winger with a perfect shot, but is often lazy and disengaged
10. Farabee - 8.0 (65%) - 7.0 - Fast, skilled, gritty and smart. Has all the tools, great two-way W.
11. Kotkoniemi - 8.5 (40%) - 7.5 - Big and strong with a great shot and playmaking skills. Skating issues are overblown. All-around offensive forward.
12. Smith - 8.0 (50%) - 6.0 - Great skater, thinks the game, can shoot the puck. Good defensive player to boot.
13. Veleno - 7.5 (60%) - 6.5 - Two-way playmaking center
14. Kupari - 7.5 (40%) - 6.0 - Speedy forward
15. Wilde - 8.0 (25%) - 5.0 - Great skating defenseman who lacks smarts.


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[Castle8130]

10.0 = generational (ex. Mcdavid, Crosby)
9.5 = franchise player (Karlsson E,)
9.0 = perennial all star player (ex. Tarasenko, Kucherov)
8.5 = 1st line f/1st pair d (Monahan)
8.0 = top 6 f/top 4 d (ex. Oshie)
7.5 = top9 f/top 6 d (Eller)
7.0 = role player (ex. Helm, Smith-Pelly)
6.5 or below= fringe nhler (Jensen)

1. Dahlin; ceiling 9.5 (80%), floor 8.5
= probably franchise d-man, but even if he doesn't reach expectations, he'll still be a 1st pair all star level d-man

2. Svechnikov; ceiling 9.5 (40%), floor 8.5
= he should be a perennial all star player no doubts, but there is a slightly chance of him being a franchise player. Anyway, floor is high for this guy, he is definitely going to be a 1st line player

3. Dobson; ceiling 8.5 (80%), floor 8.0
= I don't see being Dobson as good to be a perennial all star player but he can be a solid 1st pairing d-man

4. Zadina; ceiling 9.0 (60%), floor 8.0
= realistically, Zadina should be a solid 1st line player, but I see like 60% he could be a perennial all star player. However, if he isn't able to fully translate his offensive game to the NHL, he'll be just a TOP 6 player

5. Bouchard; ceiling 8.5 (60%), floor 7.5
= if he doesn't improve his skating, he is going to bust

6. Tkachuk; ceiling 8.0 (90%), floor 8.0
= I couldn't imagine Tkachuk of being anything else than a great TOP6 player. Both ceiling and floor is there

7. Boqvist; ceiling 9.0 (40%), floor 7.0
= low floor, high ceiling player

8. Hughes; ceiling 8.5 (75%), floor 8.0
= his hockey IQ is why his floor is so high

9. Wahlstrom; ceiling 8.5 (75%), floor 8.0
= this guy is going to be cemeneted in someone's TOP6 for very long time

10. Farabee; ceiling 8.0 (85%), floor 8.0
= probably 2nd line energy winger with high floor

11. Kotkaniemi; ceiling 8.5 (70%), floor 8.0
= high potential is there, but I can see him as great 2C

12. Smith; ceiling 8.5 (65%), floor 7.5
= slightly chance of Smith becoming a solid 1st pairing d-man, realistically can see him as reliable TOP4 d-man

13. Veleno; ceiling 8.0 (90%), floor 7.5
= he is going to be a reliable TOP 6 player

14. Kravtsov; ceiling 8.5 (65%), floor 7.0
= high floor, low ceiling

Veleno being a guaranteed top 6 player is a bold statement.

 

[Kyndig]

10.0 = generational (ex. Mcdavid, Crosby)
9.5 = franchise player (Karlsson E,)
9.0 = perennial all star player (ex. Tarasenko, Kucherov)
8.5 = 1st line f/1st pair d (Monahan)
8.0 = top 6 f/top 4 d (ex. Oshie)
7.5 = top9 f/top 6 d (Eller)
7.0 = role player (ex. Helm, Smith-Pelly)
6.5 or below= fringe nhler (Jensen)


1. Dahlin - 10.0 (40%) - 8.5 - Only player in the draft that gets labeled generational by scouts and for good reason. High ceiling to hit though.

2. Svechnikov - 9.5 (40%) - 8.0 - Big and fast with a scoring touch. Already big so no idea how well that will translate to the NHL as he won't be pushing around kids.

3. Dobson - 8.5 (60%) - 8.0 - Good two way defenseman.

4. Zadina - 9.0 (30%) - 8.0 - Reminds me a lot of a Thomas Vanek, not the greatest skater but has a good shot.

5. Bouchard - 8.5 (50%) - 7.0 - Offensive first defenseman. Another man-child like Svechnikov.

6. Tkachuk - 8.0 (40%) - 6.5 - Decent skater and gritty. I question his offensive upside though.

7. Boqvist - 9.5 (20%) - 7.0 - Reminds me of a smaller E.Karlsson but its a risky pick.

8. Hughes - 8.5 (40%) - 7.5 - One of the best skaters in the draft. Sometimes handles the puck too often though and is on the small side.

9. Wahlstrom - 9.0 (40%) - 8.0 -Poor mans Jack Eichel.


Didn't really watch the rest of the prospects much.

 

[Brando]

1. Dahlin 10
2. Svetchnikov 9
3. Dobson 8
4. Zadina 9
5. Bouchard 7.5
6. Tkachuk 8
7. Boquist 8
8. Hughes 9
9. Wahlstrom 8
10. Farabee 7
11. Kotkoniemi 8
12. Smith 8
13. Veleno 7.5
14. Kupari 7
15. Wilde 7
16. Olafsson 6
17. Hayton 7
18. Sandin 7.5
19. Alexeyev 7
20. Kravstov 7.5
21. Kaut 7.5
22. Lundestrom 7
23. Miller 7
24. Lundquist 6
25. Dellandrea 7
26. Bernard 5
27. Woo 5
28. McIssac 5
29. Denisenko 7
30. Thomas 7
31. Bokk 7.5

 

[McNurse]

Shouldn’t everyone realistically have a low floor? I don’t think anyone is guaranteed to be an NHLer, let alone a guaranteed top 6 forward or Dman. Just doesn’t make sense to have anyone as locks

 

[third man in]

Shouldn’t everyone realistically have a low floor? I don’t think anyone is guaranteed to be an NHLer, let alone a guaranteed top 6 forward or Dman. Just doesn’t make sense to have anyone as locks

It's going to be the best draft of all time. No one will bust in the first round.

 

[Dominance]

Nobody, has a floor of a star or even top-6/top-4 player. Dahlin maaaaybe floor of top-4 d-man.

Are you guys insane? Busts and disappointments can come out of nowhere and for a great number of reasons.

 

[Kyndig]

Shouldn’t everyone realistically have a low floor? I don’t think anyone is guaranteed to be an NHLer, let alone a guaranteed top 6 forward or Dman. Just doesn’t make sense to have anyone as locks

I tried to make my list as realistic as possible. Some higher ceilings but lower % odds for said players with high ceilings, lower ceilings and higher odds. Also 4 of the 9 players I ranked have a floor of fringe NHLer/4th liner or role player/bust which is actually quite high given they're in the top 10 imo.

Saying 31 players have a floor of a bust doesn't make anymore sense than saying all 31 will make the NHL.