Confirmed Signing with Link: [WPG] Jets Sign Ville Heinola to ELC

[Adam Michaels]

To continue with the theme of 2019 1st Round Picks being signed to their ELC today, Winnipeg sign theirs:

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[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Could possibly come out as the best defender in this draft, huge fan of his.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Projected to play where next year?

 

[tgo0]

Jacob who?

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Jacob who?

Uhhh a very very good d-man! One of the best in the league and I have no doubt that people will consider his contract to be one of the absolute best going into next season.

Honestly, people don't put nearly enough respect on his name.

His first name is spelt with 2 c's though.

Carolina is lucky to have him.

 

[tgo0]

Uhhh a very very good d-man! One of the best in the league and I have no doubt that people will consider his contract to be one of the absolute best going into next season.

Honestly, people don't put nearly enough respect on his name.

His first name is spelt with 2 c's though.

Carolina is lucky to have him.

Two thirds of the way through this post you 100% had me. Well played.

 

[MardyBum]

Wouldn't mind seeing him get some pre-season games in.

Wonder if he'll be in the AHL or Liiga next year.

 

[izzy]

cant believe he went 20th

 

[GigaChad]

Nice!

 

[Royale With Cheese]

cant believe he went 20th

Where did you expect him to go - higher or lower?

 

[Jussi]

Projected to play where next year?

Unless he has a huge development jump in the summer, I'd guess Liiga.

 

[izzy]

Where did you expect him to go - higher or lower?

higher honestly, he looks solid and his numbers in a mens league are pretty nuts

 

[Daximus]

Unless he has a huge development jump in the summer, I'd guess Liiga.

I think there is an out clause in his contract similar to Vesalainens. If he doesnt make the Jets he might try AHL and see how he likes it but will likely head back to Liiga.

 

[Jetsetter]

Jack Hughes signed for $925,000 why are the Jets signing the 20th OA pick $1,137,500?

 

[ijuka]

higher honestly, he looks solid and his numbers in a mens league are pretty nuts

Especially if we consider his numbers starting from December. A year ago, from December to draft, Kotkaniemi for example scored at a significantly lower pace than Heinola did this year, despite Heinola being a D, and Kotkaniemi went #3OA.

Perhaps Heinola's overall stats aren't so jaw-dropping, but just this year(calendar year 2019) he's well over a 0.5 PPG pace in Liiga, and I'd value improvement over the course of a season pretty highly.


But anyway, isn't 925k max for ELC? How are they giving him 1.1mil? Are they breaching the CBA?

 

[Lempo]

Jack Hughes signed for $925,000 why are the Jets signing the 20th OA pick $1,137,500?

Hughes is $3.775M AAV. Max salary, max performance bonuses.

Heinola has max salary and some performance bonuses.

Bonuses count into AAV.

Ville Heinola - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Jack Hughes - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[izzy]

Especially if we consider his numbers starting from December. A year ago, from December to draft, Kotkaniemi for example scored at a significantly lower pace than Heinola did this year, despite Heinola being a D, and Kotkaniemi went #3OA.

Perhaps Heinola's overall stats aren't so jaw-dropping, but just this year(calendar year 2019) he's well over a 0.5 PPG pace in Liiga, and I'd value improvement over the course of a season pretty highly.


But anyway, isn't 925k max for ELC? How are they giving him 1.1mil? Are they breaching the CBA?

exactly, its a bit surprising.

even going by the entire year PPG it doesnt look right that he was 20th
.51 on forward
to
.41 on defense

 

[KingBogo]

Hughes is $3.775M AAV. Max salary, max performance bonuses.

Heinola has max salary and some performance bonuses.

Bonuses count into AAV.

Ville Heinola - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Jack Hughes - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Performance bonuses are included in the reported AAV, but aren't applied towards the cap unless obtained.

 

[Lempo]

Performance bonuses are included in the reported AAV, but aren't applied towards the cap unless obtained.

It's not that straightforward. They count in full against Club's Averaged Club Salary until they become impossible to earn. For the biggest part the Performance Bonuses are technically possible to obtain until the Game 82 has ended: If you have 5+12 going into the Game 82 you still can score the missing 15+23 plus some points to breach 60 if you try like real hard.

The unearned bonus doesn't count against Club's Actual Club Salary... for certain purposes. It's really a mess.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I think he should be in Finland next season, but if he is in North America he's likely to play for the Manitoba Moose.

 

[Turning Mangiapanese]

Thought it said Ville Leino at first glance.

Apologies to any Sabres fans who read this post and were reminded of him.

 

[PhilJets]

Lets go make the moose this year.

Make the Jets following year with Samberg to reload on D!

 

[Jussi]

I think there is an out clause in his contract similar to Vesalainens. If he doesnt make the Jets he might try AHL and see how he likes it but will likely head back to Liiga.

I think that clause comes automatically with the transfer agreement.

 

[Lempo]

I think that clause comes automatically with the transfer agreement.

No, it needs to be asked and negotiated for. It's the CBA 11.19 European Assignment clause where the player gets to pick the overseas team he will be loaned to instead of AHL (if he is under existing IIHF contract it's obviously that one).

I think they sign every promising youngster in Finland for 3 years at 17 so they'll get the transfer fee if/when they leave to NHL, but only a select few ask for this clause.

But there apparently is another clause in the TA similar to the one with CHL, where you have to offer 18-19 y.o. non-first-rounder back to the European team if he doesn't make the NHL roster and would be Loaned to AHL. This is the Club's option, not the player's.

 

[Lempo]

Speaking of the transfer fee, my hometown team gets 25 % of the dough for rearing the local boy Heinola. It's a year's worth of ice fees.

Ville Heinolan, 18, NHL-sopimus takaa jättipotin suomalaiselle pikkuseuralle – ”Se on iso raha”