Would you accept being soft for being good?

Gubbhornet

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Flyers is probably the organisation, together with the Bruins, that is most associated with a specific way of playing hockey and that is very physical.

If management ditched the identity and made you in to a soft team, but that somehow guaranteed you to be a regular playoff team for 5 years to come (or something). Would you accept that as a fan?
 

Beef Invictus

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Flyers is probably the organisation, together with the Bruins, that is most associated with a specific way of playing hockey and that is very physical.

If management ditched the identity and made you in to a soft team, but that somehow guaranteed you to be a regular playoff team for 5 years to come (or something). Would you accept that as a fan?

They're already soft. Losing is soft.
 

BernieParent

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It needs to be said that there is an essential reason why '70s hockey has largely gone the way of the dodo. We know the devastating and lifelong effects of head trauma. So it isn't just "may as well watch figure skating"; these are people's lives. I was a big fan of a player (on another team) getting blown up in a "legal" hit and had a couple of Rock 'em Sock 'em Hockey tapes in prehistoric times. Those hits now turn my stomach.
 

deadhead

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No, because soft teams rarely win in the playoffs.

Now I don't mean hard in the sense of "broad street bullies," but look at TB, aggressive, physical forecheck, big physical defense, along with some top skill people. Look at Colorado last year, Makar is the top offensive D-man in the league, but he plays defense, and isn't afraid to step in front of a power forward. McKinnon plays a two way game, Bergeron, Toews on those Chicago teams, Kopitar on LA.

The teams that generally win combine skill, grit and some physical play, and play disciplined defense, they don't just try to outscore opponents.
 
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Striiker

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How is this even a question? Being good is the only thing that matters.

“Toughness” is without question the most overrated attribute in hockey. Especially since most “fans” define it in the dumbest possible way.

Nobody wins anything because they’re tough. Some good teams just happen to have good players who are also tough as a side trait.
 

Chicken N Raffls

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I'll go out on a limb and say responses to this OP will be 100% predictable. They already are.

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Captain Dave Poulin

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It needs to be said that there is an essential reason why '70s hockey has largely gone the way of the dodo. We know the devastating and lifelong effects of head trauma. So it isn't just "may as well watch figure skating"; these are people's lives. I was a big fan of a player (on another team) getting blown up in a "legal" hit and had a couple of Rock 'em Sock 'em Hockey tapes in prehistoric times. Those hits now turn my stomach.

1000% with you on this, Bern.
 

Gubbhornet

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The fact this is even a question speaks to the issue. I don’t care how they need to win, so long as they do. The flyers are rooted in this mindset that the way the won it all in the seventies is the only way to win—and that is the root of all our collective suffering.

From an owner perspective, I can see some benefit to it though, but it's minor.

For us who don't come from an NHL team area (europeans and maybe others), the team you support tend to either be due to a player that you like or the style of play. So a team that has a playing style identity is easier to associated with. That could create some revenue. But then again, if you don't win games you won't get any supporters.

Also, the revenue us euros create is probably very limited compared to that of having home town support.
 

Nizzle

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I once had a 91 overall enforcer defenceman on NHL 21. That would be optimal but also unrealistic.

Being ”tough” hasn’t won them anything in the past 45 years so there’s your answer.
 
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kudymen

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Oh absolutely not, I’d be so embarrassed if this team finally made the playoffs, let alone advanced a round or two, god forbid win a Cup with some weak ass players. That sounds terrible, living nightmare and the shame that would take me over if I found myself cheering for someone who is even a tiny bit soft… wow that’d be bad. I’m not cheering for good display or results, I’m just here for the tooth knocked out
 

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