Would McDavid-Hall have been better than Crosby-Malkin?

[illpucks]

Hall was traded before both players were at prime/peak levels. Would McDavid and Hall have been a better 1-2 than Sid and Geno?

Edit: I'm not comparing Hall's career to Malkin, just asking if Hall and McDavid together would be a better combo.

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[blinds]

Hall is the weak link here. No.

 

[McRpro]

LOL are you comparing Hall to Malkin?

 

[Plural]

Geno and Hall are not comparable.

 

[koyvoo]

No, as much of a fan as I am of Taylor Hall, he’s just not in the same tier as the other three.

This will be locked as soon as that spiny norman guy sees the lopsided result.

 

[illpucks]

LOL are you comparing Hall to Malkin?

MVP Hall with today's McDavid. Not career vs career.
But Hart Trophy Taylor Hall with today's McDavid might be putting up 120 points each at the same time.

 

[McRpro]

MVP Hall with today's McDavid. Not career vs career.
But Hart Trophy Taylor Hall with today's McDavid might be putting up 120 points each at the same time.

Malkin now is still > Hall.

 

[belair]

McDavid-Hall wouldn't have been better than McDavid-Draisaitl.

 

[illpucks]

McDavid-Hall wouldn't have been better than McDavid-Draisaitl.

Draisaitl isn't 1/2 the player Hall is.

 

[koyvoo]

McDavid-Hall wouldn't have been better than McDavid-Draisaitl.

Yes they would. Hall is much better than Drai.

Draisaitl can’t even run a line, could you imagine him having an MVP season all alone in NJ?

 

[belair]

Draisaitl isn't 1/2 the player Hall is.

Draisaitl and McDavid have chemisty and have been one of the highest scoring tandems in the league since they were put together.

Hall and McDavid looked like ass when they played together, because both try and drive the play.

Your question isn't about who is better. It's about chemistry. Those two didn't have any.

 

[Llamamoto]

Draisaitl > Hall

 

[koyvoo]

Ya. They’re both good enough that they’d have figured it out beyond a small sample size in McDavid’s rookie season.

McDavid and Hall would dwarf McDavid and Drai in production.

 

[koyvoo]

Draisaitl > Hall

He can’t even run a line, nevervmind have the ability to win an MVP by himself in NJ.

 

[Llamamoto]

He can’t even run a line, nevervmind have the ability to win an MVP by himself in NJ.

I am so f***ing tired of hearing that. He is playing with Rieder and Chiasson, and is on pace for 101 points. And he can actually play defense. Taylor hall is tire fire in his own end.

 

[koyvoo]

I am so ****ing tired of hearing that. He is playing with Rieder and Chiasson, and is on pace for 101 points. And he can actually play defense. Taylor hall is tire fire in his own end.

This is why fanbases here on this particular website of the actual player discussed should be the very last place people look to for player valuations.

How many of his pts come when he’s with Riedet and Chiasson as opposed to how many come when he’s slotted with Conner at ES or on the PP?

He’d be a 60-70 pt player tops without McDavid and is multiple tiers below a player like Hall.

 

[McRpro]

Draisaitl > Hall

 

[koyvoo]

At having more letters in his surname. At hockey, not even in the same stratosphere.

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

McDavid and Hall barely played with each other at ES with each other. Also, Hall is better than Draisaitl at the moment but it was never a choice between these two players

 

[Esko6]

This is basically a poll for Malkin vs Hall. I feel that Crosby was slightly better than McDavid anyway, so it's a landslide.

 

[CanadienShark]

Crosby ≈ McDavid
Malkin >> Hall

Not close.

 

[Regal]

This is why fanbases here on this particular website of the actual player discussed should be the very last place people look to for player valuations.

How many of his pts come when he’s with Riedet and Chiasson as opposed to how many come when he’s slotted with Conner at ES or on the PP?

He’d be a 60-70 pt player tops without McDavid and is multiple tiers below a player like Hall.

That the bulk of his points come with McDavid isn't really the point though, it's that whenever he's apart from McDavid, he's playing with bottom 6 players. His points are inflated by McDavid half the time and then hurt by crap wingers the other half. He might be a 60-70 point player playing the whole year with crap players, but he's probably an 80 point player with actual competent top 6 wingers. He's not as good as Hall, but he's not levels behind. Hall has had some mediocre numbers in some years himself.

As for the poll, I don't know how it's not comparing Hall to Malkin. It's not like McDavid is a way better player to make up for it. It's clearly the Pens duo. Maybe it's the Oilers if you compare MVP Hall to Malkin in his worse year

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Draisaitl and McDavid have chemisty and have been one of the highest scoring tandems in the league since they were put together.

Hall and McDavid looked like ass when they played together, because both try and drive the play.

Your question isn't about who is better. It's about chemistry. Those two didn't have any.

Crosby and Malkin are not a scoring tandem who play together, they both drive their own lines, just as Hall would, and just as Draisaitl does not successfully.

The idea that the Oilers could have

McDavid
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle given their chemistry
Draisaitl properly slotted as a 3C

is funny to me though.

 

[belair]

Crosby and Malkin are not a scoring tandem who play together, they both drive their own lines, just as Hall would, and just as Draisaitl does not successfully.

The idea that the Oilers could have

McDavid
Hall-Hopkins-Eberle given their chemistry
Draisaitl properly slotted as a 3C

is funny to me though.

Funny to me too, considering the whole existence of a salary cap.

 

[A1LeafNation]

No but this could have been

Hall McDavid Draisaitl
RNH Barzal Eberle