Winnipeg Jets Prospect Thread (Part X)

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[size=+1]NHL Pre Season[/size]

Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Nikolaj Ehlers|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|2/14/1996|Denmark|Round 1, #9 Overall
Nic Petan|C|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|3/22/1995|Canada|Round 2, #43 Overall
Adam Lowry|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|3/29/1993|Canada|Round 3, #67 Overall
Ryan Olsen|C|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|3/25/1994|Canada|Round 6, #160 Overall
Jimmy Lodge|C|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|3/5/1995|USA|Round 3, #84 Overall
Carl Klingberg|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|1/28/1991|Sweden|Round 2, #34 Overall
Josh Morrissey|D|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|3/28/1995|Canada|Round 1, #13 Overall
Nelson Nogier|D|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|5/27/1996|Canada|Round 4, #101 Overall
Brenden Kichton|D|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|6/18/1992|Canada|Round 7, #190 Overall
Ben Chiarot|D|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|5/9/1991|Canada|Round 4, #120 Overall

Goalies
Player|Pos.|GP|W|L|SO|GAA|SV%|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Eric Comrie|G|0|0|0|0|0.0|1.00|Winnipeg Jets|7/6/1995|Canada|Round 2, #59 Overall
Michael Hutchinson|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|Winnipeg Jets|3/2/1990|Canada|Round 6, #154 Overall
Connor Hellebuyck|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|Winnipeg Jets|5/19/1993|USA|Round 5, #130 Overall


[size=+1]Regular Season[/size]

NHL Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Eric O'Dell|C|0|0|0|0|0|Winnipeg Jets|6/21/1990|Canada|Round 2, #39 Overall

NHL Goalies
Player|Pos.|GP|W|L|SO|GAA|SV%|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Michael Hutchinson|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|Winnipeg Jets|3/2/1990|Canada|Round 6, #154 Overall

CHL Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Nikolaj Ehlers|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL|2/14/1996|Denmark|Round 1, #9 Overall
Nic Petan|C|0|0|0|0|0|Portland Winterhawks, WHL|3/22/1995|Canada|Round 2, #43 Overall
Chase De Leo|C|0|0|0|0|0|Portland Winterhawks, WHL|10/25/1995|USA|Round 4, #99 Overall
Jimmy Lodge|C|0|0|0|0|0|Saginaw Spirit, OHL|3/5/1995|USA|Round 3, #84 Overall
Axel Blomqvist|RW|0|0|0|0|0|Victoria Royals, WHL|1/30/1995|Sweden|Undrafted
Josh Morrissey|D|0|0|0|0|0|Prince Albert Raiders, WHL|3/28/1995|Canada|Round 1, #13 Overall
Jan Kostalek|D|0|0|0|0|0|Rimouski Oceanic, QMJHL|2/17/1995|Czech Rep.|Round 4, #114 Overall
Nelson Nogier|D|0|0|0|0|0|Saskatoon Blades, WHL|5/27/1996|Canada|Round 4, #101 Overall

CHL Goalies
Player|Pos.|GP|W|L|SO|GAA|SV%|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Eric Comrie|G|0|0|0|0|0.0|1.00|Tri-City Americans, WHL|7/6/1995|Canada|Round 2, #59 Overall

NCAA Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Andrew Copp|C|0|0|0|0|0|Michigan, Big 10|7/8/1994|USA|Round 4, #104 Overall
Matt Ustaski|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Wisconsin, Big 10|5/27/1994|USA|Round 7, #192 Overall
Tanner Lane|C|0|0|0|0|0|Nebraska-Omaha, NCAC|8/13/1992|USA|Round 6, #160 Overall
Brennan Serville|D|0|0|0|0|0|Michigan, Big 10|6/2/1993|Canada|Round 3, #78 Overall
Peter Stoykewych|D|0|0|0|0|0|Colorado, NCAC|7/14/1992|Canada|Round 7, #199 Overall
Aaron Harstad|D|0|0|0|0|0|Colorado, NCAC|4/27/1992|USA|Round 7, #187 Overall
CJ Franklin|LW|0|0|0|0|0|Minnesota State, WCHA|3/17/1994|USA|Round 5, #129 Overall
Tucker Poolman|D|0|0|0|0|0|North Dakota, NCAC|6/8/1993|USA|Round 5, #127 Overall
Jack Glover|D|0|0|0|0|0|Minnesota, Big 10|5/17/1996|USA|Round 3, #69 Overall

NCAA Goalies
Player|Pos.|GP|W|L|SO|GAA|SV%|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Jason Kasdorf|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|RPI, ECAC|5/18/1992|Canada|Round 6, #157 Overall
Jamie Phillips|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|Michigan Tech, WCHA|3/24/1993|Canada|Round 7, #190 Overall

International Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Alexander Burmistrov|C|8|1|3|4|18|Ak Bars, KHL|10/21/1991|Russia|Round 1, #8 Overall
Ivan Telegin|C|4|0|0|0|0|CSKA Moscow, KHL|2/28/1992|Russia|Round 4, #101 Overall
Pavel Kraskovsky|C|4|0|3|3|2|Loko Yaroslavl, MHL|9/11/1996|Russia|Round 6, #164 Overall
Arturs Kulda|D|4|0|1|1|0|Salavat Yulaev Ufa, KHL|7/25/1988|Latvia|Round 7, #200 Overall
Marcus Karlström|D|3|0|0|0|0|Mora, Allsveskan|1/6/1995|Sweden|Round 7, #194 Overall

AHL Skaters
Player|Pos.|GP|Goals|Assists|Points|PIM|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Adam Lowry|LW|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|3/29/1993|Canada|Round 3, #67 Overall
JC Lipon|RW|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|7/10/1993|Canada|Round 3, #91 Overall
Austen Brassard|C|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|1/14/1993|Canada|Round 5, #149 Overall
Patrice Cormier|C|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|6/14/1990|Canada|Round 2, #54 Overall
Carl Klingberg|LW|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|1/28/1991|Sweden|Round 2, #34 Overall
Ryan Olsen|C|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|3/25/1994|Canada|Round 6, #160 Overall
Scott Kosmachuk|RW|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|1/24/1994|Canada|Round 3, #70 Overall
John Albert|C|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|1/19/1989|USA|Round 6, #175 Overall
Brenden Kichton|D|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|6/18/1992|Canada|Round 7, #190 Overall
Ben Chiarot|D|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|5/9/1991|Canada|Round 4, #120 Overall
Ralfs Freibergs|D|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|5/17/1991|Latvia|Undrafted
Julian Melchiori|D|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|12/6/1991|Canada|Round 3, #87 Overall
Cody Sol|D|0|0|0|0|0|St. John's IceCaps|2/11/1991|Canada|Round 5, #125 Overall

AHL Goalies
Player|Pos.|GP|W|L|SO|GAA|SV%|Team/League|DOB|Country|Drafted
Connor Hellebuyck|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|UMass Lowell, H-East|5/19/1993|USA|Round 5, #130 Overall
Jussi Olkinoura|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|St. John's IceCaps|11/4/1990|Finland|Undrafted
Michael Hutchinson|G|0|0|0|0|0.00|1.00|St. John's IceCaps|3/2/1990|Canada|Round 6, #154 Overall


[post=89849119]Final stats for last season[/post]

 
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During the media scrum at last Tuesday's Development camp Paul Maurice said something that intregued me. He sited the statistic that only about 30% of 1st rounders actually play 100 games in the NHL. That sounded awfully low to me so I analyzed the drafts between 1996 and 2005 to find out how many draftees actually did play 100 games in the NHL. I decided it wasn't fair to assess the numbers after 2005 because it can take some kids many years to accumulate that number of games. As we know kids like Jason Kasdorf get drafted while in junior, then spend another 4 years in college, can take some time in the AHL and then finally take several years to get 100 games under their belt. So it was take awhile to get to 100 games.

So what I found for first rounders by year:

2005 - 20 of 30 (66.7%)
2004 - 22 of 30 (73.3%)
2003 - 28 of 30 (93.3%)
2002 - 22 of 30 (73.3%)
2001 - 24 of 30 (80.0%)
2000 - 20 of 30 (73.3%)
1999 - 16 of 28 (57.1%)
1998 - 22 of 27 (81.5%)
1997 - 16 of 26 (61.5%)
1996 - 15 of 26 (57.7%)

Total - 205 of 287 - 71.4%


I also counted the other rounds during the same period of time:

2nd round - 102 of 327 (31.2%)
3rd round - 87 of 306 (28.4%)
4th round - 56 of 315 (17.8%)
5th round - 44 of 325 (13.5%)
6th round - 44 of 295 (14.9%)
7th round - 42 of 309 (13.6%)
*8th round - 32 of 267 (12.0%)
*9th round - 28 of 271 (10.3%)

*Prior to the 2005 there were 9 rounds in the draft.


Incomplete counts for 2006 to 2014 (1st rounders only):

2014 - 0 of 30 - 0.0%
2013 - 0 of 30 - 0.0%
2012 - 2 of 30 - 6.7%
2011 - 8 of 30 - 26.7%
2010 - 11 of 30 - 36.7%
2009 - 20 of 30 - 66.7%
2008 - 20 of 30 - 66.7%
2007 - 21 of 30 - 70.0%
2006 - 20 of 30 - 66.7%

Interesting numbers. Thanks.
The rounds from 2 on are roughly what I would have expected but I am surprised that the 1st round is not higher.

I think next year if Draisaitl doesn't return to junior, Morrissey should be traded to Kelowna. If Tri-City still doesn't do well, I say trade Comrie to Kelowna as well. Would say Petan, but he'll be the face of Portland next year.

My homer vote goes for J-mo to Brandon (if he does not make the Jets), they will likely lose Pulock and need someone big to step up. I know he isnt the right hand, but he would sure help. Brandon looks to be a contender next year as well.

Top Jets prospect 20 minutes from me? :naughty:

Awesome job. I thought the number was way too low as well, but was too lazy to check. Thanks for the numbers!!
Maybe our 6th and 7th rounders next year might produce something.
 

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......I also counted the other rounds during the same period of time:

2nd round - 102 of 327 (31.2%)
3rd round - 87 of 306 (28.4%)
4th round - 56 of 315 (17.8%)
5th round - 44 of 325 (13.5%)
6th round - 44 of 295 (14.9%)
7th round - 42 of 309 (13.6%)
*8th round - 32 of 267 (12.0%)
*9th round - 28 of 271 (10.3%)


AndersUlfBobby:
Thanks for the information above, as it is different from the prevailing wisdom, based on older data than yours, that lumps Rounds 3-7 together and assigns them a 12% chance of having an NHL career.
Your numbers suggest an advantage in picking all the way into the early part of the 4th round, with the slope of the graph flattening after that.
 

Joe Hallenback

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I think if Draisaitl stays in Edmonton this upcoming season and JMo plays 9 games here to start the season then JMo will get traded and the likely teams are either Brandon,Calgary or Kelowna.

I would love for him to be in Brandon next year. With the core group of forwards they have returning, adding a D like JMo would really elevate Brandon next year to Memorial cup contender. They picked up Russian D man and former Sioux City Stampeder Ivan Prokohov in the Import draft but can really use that impact D.
 

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If JoMo goes back to the CHL, I also hope he gets to play for a contender. Brandon would be great as I am imagining we would have more than a couple people giving us 1st hand updates.
 

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I think if Draisaitl stays in Edmonton this upcoming season and JMo plays 9 games here to start the season then JMo will get traded and the likely teams are either Brandon,Calgary or Kelowna.

I would love for him to be in Brandon next year. With the core group of forwards they have returning, adding a D like JMo would really elevate Brandon next year to Memorial cup contender. They picked up Russian D man and former Sioux City Stampeder Ivan Prokohov in the Import draft but can really use that impact D.

Another year in PA without Leon would kind of be boring and I am not sure how great that would be for Morrissey's development?
 

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If he doesn't make the playoffs then goes to the ice caps again that would probably be best for his development.
 

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Another year in PA without Leon would kind of be boring and I am not sure how great that would be for Morrissey's development?

The deal with the CHL is a problem, but I understand why it exists. It's purely financial. Elite prospects having to go back to junior instead of the A is probably a detriment to many.
 
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The deal with the CHL is a problem, but I understand why it exists. It's purely financial. Elite prospects having to back to junior instead of the A is probably a detriment to many.

I do understand the arrangement and agree with it. Most junior teams don't make much cash and the NHL has to support their primary prospect factory partner. One more year in PA wouldn't kill Josh and it would go fast but if they are taking a step backwards as a club I would far prefer a trade.
 

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I do understand the arrangement and agree with it. Most junior teams don't make much cash and the NHL has to support their primary prospect factory partner. One more year in PA wouldn't kill Josh and it would go fast but if they are taking a step backwards as a club I would far prefer a trade.

Maybe, at some point some sort of arrangement is ultimately made between the NHL and CHL which each NHL team gets one exemption to send a player to the AHL early in exchange for some sort of financial compensation to the CHL/team that loses a player to the AHL. It would be used infrequently due to using up a year of their ELC. But for some players it may make sense.
 

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Maybe, at some point some sort of arrangement is ultimately made between the NHL and CHL which each NHL team gets one exemption to send a player to the AHL early in exchange for some sort of financial compensation to the CHL/team that loses a player to the AHL. It would be used infrequently due to using up a year of their ELC. But for some players it may make sense.

Under the current CBA (which is seperate from NHL-CHL agreement) that would not use up a year of ELC. Much like how if we signed Kraskovsky or Glover tommorrow and brought them to AHL this year it would not use up a year of ELC (despite the fact that they would be paid and playing this under the ELC the ELC would still in fact slide).
 

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The thing is Morrissey going to the Memorial Cup would be excellent experience for him. He can't go to St. John's since he has one year of Junior eligibility left. He needs to contend for the Memorial Cup and teams love that, also gotta have that. The Memorial Cup is competitive since lots of good experienced players play in it, other than the host team unless they make it.

I say he makes the Jets for nine games, but gets sent down to Prince Albert. Becomes the WJC captain, then is traded... hopefully to Kelowna. Kelowna develops great defenceman and I think they will go to the Memorial Cup next year.
 

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Under the current CBA (which is seperate from NHL-CHL agreement) that would not use up a year of ELC. Much like how if we signed Kraskovsky or Glover tommorrow and brought them to AHL this year it would not use up a year of ELC (despite the fact that they would be paid and playing this under the ELC the ELC would still in fact slide).

Thanks. Good to know. I still like the idea, but I guess it would be used more often. But I still think some sort of arrangement could work if the CHL saw it as a win financially.
 

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Experience of big tournaments can be nice, but a player should play the highest level available to them that they can competently and safely play at.

If Morrissey is ready, he should stay. If not, he should go down.
 

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Experience of big tournaments can be nice, but a player should play the highest level available to them that they can competently and safely play at.

If Morrissey is ready, he should stay. If not, he should go down.

exactly. Morrissey has shown he is a competent pro in the AHL. He will get a shot to play here next season. I don't see how junior is at all beneficial to him, but it's the only option if he can't make the Jets.
 

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exactly. Morrissey has shown he is a competent pro in the AHL. He will get a shot to play here next season. I don't see how junior is at all beneficial to him, but it's the only option if he can't make the Jets.

I have hopes for him being good enough and big enough to benefit from staying with the Jets. I actually thought he was very close last year during the exhibition games I watched.
 

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I have hopes for him being good enough and big enough to benefit from staying with the Jets. I actually thought he was very close last year during the exhibition games I watched.

I saw 3/4 of Morrissey's games with the Ice Caps and he looked very good after the first 5 games. I wasn't overly optimistic about him already playing pro and his first 2-3 games didn't prove me wrong. But he started to be a little more confident game after game, playing more minutes, more key situations and had more puck possession. After all, it wouldn't surprise me much to see him getting 9 games and, by game 5-6, playing easily well enough to stay with the Jets.
 

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I saw 3/4 of Morrissey's games with the Ice Caps and he looked very good after the first 5 games. I wasn't overly optimistic about him already playing pro and his first 2-3 games didn't prove me wrong. But he started to be a little more confident game after game, playing more minutes, more key situations and had more puck possession. After all, it wouldn't surprise me much to see him getting 9 games and, by game 5-6, playing easily well enough to stay with the Jets.

The Jets have over $5 million tied up in salary with Stu and Clitsome on that left side next season. Unless they can move Clitsome out, I don't see it happening unless Morrissey really blows our socks off. It's much easier to say he needs another year to add strength and dominate in the WHL than to, you know, do anything... :)
 

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Hey guys, I was just doing some stat tracking to see where Canucks prospects sit amongst the top Single-Season U18 Goal Scorers in the CHL since 2000 and I figured you all would be interested because it really shows how fantastic some guys like Ehlers (amazing player, really wanted him at 6) and Petan are when it comes to scoring. Have at 'er:

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Hey guys, I was just doing some stat tracking to see where Canucks prospects sit amongst the top Single-Season U18 Goal Scorers in the CHL since 2000 and I figured you all would be interested because it really shows how fantastic some guys like Ehlers (amazing player, really wanted him at 6) and Petan are when it comes to scoring. Have at 'er:

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I still can't believe Vancouver took Virtanen over Ehlers. I can understand the Canes taking Fleury (virtually no D prospects), but everything I've seen and read screams Ehlers and Nylander to be the better prospects. So, thanks Benning. :)
 

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Hey guys, I was just doing some stat tracking to see where Canucks prospects sit amongst the top Single-Season U18 Goal Scorers in the CHL since 2000 and I figured you all would be interested because it really shows how fantastic some guys like Ehlers (amazing player, really wanted him at 6) and Petan are when it comes to scoring. Have at 'er:

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Finding three Jets on that list is pretty nutty. Awesome stuff. Are you publishing this somewhere? Is there an article?
 

Hansen

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Finding three Jets on that list is pretty nutty. Awesome stuff. Are you publishing this somewhere? Is there an article?

Yeah I was really surprised that Petan was classified among the U18's during his draft year, I thought for sure he must've been a late 94, and I hadnt realized that Ehlers was pretty much a QMJHL Yakupov-esque scorer haha

And nah, no article, I was just really bored one night and couldnt sleep so I looked up the top single season u18 scorers in the CHL on elite prospects. There was no option to group all three leagues together so I decided it would be good practice to keep my note taking skills sharp during the summer and wrote down the top scorers down to about 37 goals in each league on paper before transferring it to a bbcode table. I have a top 52 list that I posted on the Canucks prospects thread.
 

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Yeah I was really surprised that Petan was classified among the U18's during his draft year, I thought for sure he must've been a late 94, and I hadnt realized that Ehlers was pretty much a QMJHL Yakupov-esque scorer haha

And nah, no article, I was just really bored one night and couldnt sleep so I looked up the top single season u18 scorers in the CHL on elite prospects. There was no option to group all three leagues together so I decided it would be good practice to keep my note taking skills sharp during the summer and wrote down the top scorers down to about 37 goals in each league on paper before transferring it to a bbcode table. I have a top 52 list that I posted on the Canucks prospects thread.

Thanks for the post .

You are in Nanaimo? I am in Yellowpoint , almost the same spot.
 
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