Friedman: Wings wants a first round pick for Jimmy Howard

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[Dbrownss]

He's not very good though....

 

[DRW204]

He's not very good though....

He's been good this year but he's always an injury risk.

Goalies value is always murky to me, I'd be surprised if he returned a 1st. Most PO contending teams at the TDL likely have a viable starting goalie so you're paying a 1st for a backup

 

[Shwag33]

I honestly didn't know he was worth more than a 4th....

 

[WingsMJN2965]

He's not very good though....

Gotta love the folks who don't watch Wings games and then claim this BS.

.923 SV% behind a defense composed of Green, Cholowski, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Kronwall, Jensen, Daley. Yup, he sux.

 

[NoName]

He is good this year, but he is injury prone and old. I would be surprised if the Wings managed to extract a 1st for him.

Maybe Calgary is a trade partner here?

 

[TheBradyBunch]

He's not very good though....

Lol.

He's been unreal this year. 5th in SVP amongst goalies with 20+ games played, behind goalies from Nashville, Toronto, Anaheim and Pittsburgh. 7th in GAA amongst goalies with 20+ games played, behind all of those guys + Fleury (VGK) and Hutton (BUF).

Howard has been a top 10, maybe even top 5 goalie this year. Watch him play and you will be very hard-pressed to come away unimpressed.

I could easily see him returning a conditional 2nd that turns into a 1st based on team success.

 

[hamzarocks]

Gotta love the folks who don't watch Wings games and then claim this BS.

.923 SV% behind a defense composed of Green, Cholowski, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Kronwall, Jensen, Daley. Yup, he sux.

A 1st for a goalie just seems loke bad value. He is a rental right and even then he has been inconsistent over the years. Not sure which team would even want a goalie? Value wise I see him close to a 2nd+C prospect but maybe if a team is really looking for upgrade they pay a late 1st.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Did you post the wrong link or was this a suggestion that Calgary should go for him?

... Doubt Calgary gives up a 1st for Howard after the Hamonic debacle that screwed them out of anything in this year's draft.

 

[Slyfox]

A first round pick for a rental goalie?

 

[TheBradyBunch]

A 1st for a goalie just seems loke bad value. He is a rental right and even then he has been inconsistent over the years. Not sure which team would even want a goalie? Value wise I see him close to a 2nd+C prospect but maybe if a team is really looking for upgrade they pay a late 1st.

Howards had, like, two bad seasons and even then he wasn't awful. He's pretty consistently been around the league average - sometimes better, sometimes a bit worse. He's been pretty consistently solid since 2015-2016, though.

A straight up 1st would be difficult to return but as I said earlier, I could see him ultimately returning a 1st if certain conditions are met.

 

[justafan22]

A 1st for a goalie just seems loke bad value. He is a rental right and even then he has been inconsistent over the years. Not sure which team would even want a goalie? Value wise I see him close to a 2nd+C prospect but maybe if a team is really looking for upgrade they pay a late 1st.

Ryan Miller was the last UFA goalie to return a 1st.

It rarely happens.

 

[SML2]

Goalie market is always soft. I can't think of anybody willing to pay that price.

 

[Dbrownss]

Gotta love the folks who don't watch Wings games and then claim this BS.

.923 SV% behind a defense composed of Green, Cholowski, Ericsson, DeKeyser, Kronwall, Jensen, Daley. Yup, he sux.

Heard the same excuse from Buffalo fans with Miller. No ones buying high on him

 

[Claypool]

Plenty of teams need an upgrade in net. I think it's worth it to hold out.

 

[hamzarocks]

Howards had, like, two bad seasons and even then he wasn't awful. He's pretty consistently been around the league average - sometimes better, sometimes a bit worse. He's been pretty consistently solid since 2015-2016, though.

While that is true its just so rare to see goalies traded as rentals let alone get a 1st. I cant think of a team which would want a goalie. The canes need a upgrade but who takes darling off their hands and they only deal for Howard if they are in a playoff spot at the deadline. Rebuilding teams wont deal a 1st for a goalie. Maybe the pens if they wanted to get a goalie to challange Murray come playoffs pay a conditional 1st, oh and maybe the flames would have interest in at the deadline since goaltending is their weakest facet.

 

[SimonEdvinssonAtSix]

A 1st for a goalie just seems loke bad value. He is a rental right and even then he has been inconsistent over the years. Not sure which team would even want a goalie? Value wise I see him close to a 2nd+C prospect but maybe if a team is really looking for upgrade they pay a late 1st.

The value comes into play if a contender (late 1st) needs a starter (Jimmy H) to make a serious playoff push.
Jimmy Howard is an NHL starter. His image as a sub-par tender comes from an injury prone groin.
Another thing to consider is that Ken Holland may accept a 2nd round pick but has to publicly state he wants a 1st; to inflate Howards value.

 

[hamzarocks]

Plenty of teams need an upgrade in net. I think it's worth it to hold out.

But the upgrade would only be for 16-18 games based on people saying it goes down on trade deadline. If they are dealing howard they shouldndo it now with more games left so he can have a greater impact on season and be able to get more value imo

 

[Peiskos]

Andersen-Howard would be a fantastic upgrade over Andersen-Sparks, 1st round pick though is a laughable request.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'm sure they do but they won't get it

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Yeah good luck with that one.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Haha, keep dreaming.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

And I want McDavid with the Habs for free.

 

[admiralcadillac]

I think they might get a first for him

 

[crashnburnluder]

It's simple, the Wings like Howard and he is having a fantastic season. Add that to teams like Philly, Calgary and St. Louis all desperate need of a good #1, and the fact Detroit will just hold hom and resign him. That's why the high ask. Detroit rather just keep him then sell him for scraps. Having him keep us in games and not have our youth getting victimized by constant blow outs is worth more then a 3rd or less.