Tennis: Wimbledon 2021
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Does anyone else have a problem with Nadal pulling out because he knows he won’t win?
I don’t like that. You show up and play your best. Don’t try to pick and choose which slam surfaces suit your game the best. I also think it hurts his long-term reputation compared to someone like Djokovic that he’s admitting he can’t win on grass anymore. Does anyone think Djokovic would ever pull out of a slam due to not liking the surface?
Nadal is a great talent and his career has been excellent, but when you are so sure of your prowess on one surface and inability to win on the others that you skip one of the four most important events of the year, it doesn’t come off well for how you should be perceived, in my opinion.
I don’t like that. You show up and play your best. Don’t try to pick and choose which slam surfaces suit your game the best. I also think it hurts his long-term reputation compared to someone like Djokovic that he’s admitting he can’t win on grass anymore. Does anyone think Djokovic would ever pull out of a slam due to not liking the surface?
Nadal is a great talent and his career has been excellent, but when you are so sure of your prowess on one surface and inability to win on the others that you skip one of the four most important events of the year, it doesn’t come off well for how you should be perceived, in my opinion.
If Rafa did this ten years ago, then maybe I'd have a different reaction. But I think with both Federer, and his decision to quit Roland Garros, and Rafa, and his decision to skip both Wimbledon and the Olympics, we are looking at athletes who have reached the stage of their career where managing the mental and physical resources that they have left takes precedence over showing up for every single fight. From his perspective, Nadal is just being realistic. I certainly have no problem with that at all; in fact, it makes perfectly good sense to me. As far as his reputation, I don't this decision will leave even the tiniest of blemishes. Anything he thinks he can do to prolong his career will be fine with most tennis fans. He certainly has earned the right to call his own shots.
MsMeow
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I was kind of annoyed with Roger but I also understood why he did it. I think that after he lost to Felix it really hit him that this wasn't the fairy tale ending he had hoped for. I think it's the same for Rafa. I also think that the pandemic has screwed with everyone mentally, even multi-millionaires. Both of them have lost opportunities for more majors and they've both had their schedules messed up, just like everyone else, but for them at their ages it's taken away the possibility to add to their totals.
Only two Canadians in the qualifying draw and of course they played each other...
Schnur beat Diez in 3 sets.
Schnur beat Diez in 3 sets.
The draws are out!
We get Djokovic/Draper R1...Brits will love that
Federer is in Medvedev's half.
We get Djokovic/Draper R1...Brits will love that
Federer is in Medvedev's half.
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/index.html?event=MS
Top half of draw includes:
Djokovic
Tsitsipas
Rublev
Bautista Agut
Shapo
Sinner
Opelka
Davidovich Fokina
Anderson
Bottom half of draw includes:
Medvedev
Federer
Zverev
Berrettini
FAA
Karatsev
Ruud
Musetti
Humbert
Cilic
Isner
Krygios
Top half of draw includes:
Djokovic
Tsitsipas
Rublev
Bautista Agut
Shapo
Sinner
Opelka
Davidovich Fokina
Anderson
Bottom half of draw includes:
Medvedev
Federer
Zverev
Berrettini
FAA
Karatsev
Ruud
Musetti
Humbert
Cilic
Isner
Krygios
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Ha, ha. No kidding.
Nole's draw on paper:
Draper
Anderson
Davidovitch Fokina (dinged)
Monfils
Rublev
Tsisipas (worst surface)
Medvedev
These things never go as planned, but the above actually represents a worse case scenario. I can see Rublev and Medvedev giving Djokovic a match, but not the other guys.
After a tricky opener with Mannarino, Federer has a pretty soft looking draw, though it may not do him much good in his present form. Medvedev opens with Struff, then gets Cilic in the third round who is getting hyped for no discernible reason at all. Surviving early challenges tends to be a good thing at Wimbledon, though.
I'm guessing a Djokovic/Medvedev final. Daniil is the only one who possesses the weapons to challenge Nole on grass. All the other contenders (I'm not counting Roger as a contender) have a backhand weakness or a return of serve weakness on grass (in Berrettini's case, both).
Eye of Ra
Grandmaster General of the International boards
yes and so is nadal. warinka, goffin, raonic, and coric. on paper this has to be worst wimbledon ever with so many good players missing
Eye of Ra
Grandmaster General of the International boards
Sweden is so bad at tennis nowdays. Historically we where good with players such as Borg, Björkman, Söderling, Pim Pim Johansson, Edberg, Enqvist, Norman, Thomas Johansson, Magnus Gustafsson, Pernfors, Wilander, Järryd etc. So many good players. How we went from that to be one of the worst nations in Tennis is mind boggling. We only have Ymer of decent quality right now. Will he even stand a chance against Tsonga?
If I remember correctly, Sweden once had five players in the top ten at the same time.
Sweden, USA, England, Australia and Czech Republic all have great tennis history.
Not a single top 10 representative in Men's ranking of those countries currently and only 1 total (de Minaur) in top 25.
Women's ranking do, however, have plenty of representatives from those countries.
Novak Djokovic
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"Wimbledon 2021 men's predictions, picks, preview
Breaking down the top 16 seeds, picking a key upset and predictions for who will win at the All England club in Wimbledon’s return."
Breaking down the top 16 seeds, picking a key upset and predictions for who will win at the All England club in Wimbledon’s return."
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" Wimbledon 2021 women's predictions, picks, preview - Sports Illustrated
Breaking down the top 16 seeds, picking a key upset and predictions for who will win at the All England club in Wimbledon’s return."
If you are curiouis about potential upsets, here are the winners and finalists of this year's grass court tournaments leading up to Wimbledon:
Stuttgart
Cilic (W)
FAA (F)
Queen's Club
Berrettini (W)
Norrie (F)
Halle
Humbert (W)
Rublev (F)
Mallorca
Medvedev (W)
Querrey (F)
Eastbourne
De Minaur (W)
Sonego (F)
Stuttgart
Cilic (W)
FAA (F)
Queen's Club
Berrettini (W)
Norrie (F)
Halle
Humbert (W)
Rublev (F)
Mallorca
Medvedev (W)
Querrey (F)
Eastbourne
De Minaur (W)
Sonego (F)
Rainy day so far on Day 1. So a couple matches start under the roof.
One of which is the next great Brit hope in 19 year Jack Draper against Djokovic. And what do you know...Draper gets a first set break advantage.
I have zero doubt Novak will win this match but at least there is some intrigue
Draper does serve out the first set...
One of which is the next great Brit hope in 19 year Jack Draper against Djokovic. And what do you know...Draper gets a first set break advantage.
I have zero doubt Novak will win this match but at least there is some intrigue
Draper does serve out the first set...
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Beau Knows
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Djokovic's quest for the golden slam begins.
Btw I always see people downplaying Federer's early slams because of weak competition, but isn't this pretty bad? Federer is basically done at this point, Nadal is out, there's not really anyone here to challenge Novak.
Btw I always see people downplaying Federer's early slams because of weak competition, but isn't this pretty bad? Federer is basically done at this point, Nadal is out, there's not really anyone here to challenge Novak.
I disagree with that.
There was PLENTY of top level competition when Fed was breaking out.
Agassi was still playing at a high level. Hewitt was finally focused and was looking like he would be #1 for a long time. Roddick was playing at his high potential there for awhile. Safin was actually focused on tennis there for a short time (he actually interrupted Fed's dominance with an epic 5-setter Aussie semis win). Novak was already a force on tour even in 2006 and certainly in 2007.
There were a number of other very talented players who just couldn't break through.
In retrospect beating those guys might not look like a big deal, but they were all playing great tennis at the time when Fed was not letting anyone win anything. Those players legacies would probably look far more impressive had it not for Fed.
Not to mention, Nadal broke through when Fed still only had 4 GSs. It took until after Fed's 12th for someone to finally put a stop to his fast court dominance.
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