Wilson vs Carlyle

[cajun]

Toronto's problem is when they had Wilson as a coach he had a bunch of third line plugs he tried to turn into a rushing hockey team. Now Carlyle has got skilled goal scorers and he's trying to make them into a defensive hockey team.This team will never win with this coach

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[Cor]

Did we win tonight? Yeah? Okay.

 

[Mystifo]

There is just no pleasing you people.... I mean not too long ago myself included we were asking to axe Wilson now it seems like some people are forgetting how ABYSMAL this team was under him. Let me remind you our PK was ranked 30th. We continued to finish in the bottom half of the league and our goaltenders were hung out to dry every night.

 

[Maccer]

Toronto's problem is when they had Wilson as a coach he had a bunch of third line plugs he tried to turn into a rushing hockey team. Now Carlyle has got skilled goal scorers and he's trying to make them into a defensive hockey team.This team will never win with this coach

What we should do is trade Kessel for Chara and JVR for Big Buff.

 

[TMLegend]

I think we'd be better with Ron Wilson to be honest. At least his teams didn't get doubled up in shots on a regular basis and he also didn't have the luxury of relying on his goaltenders to win games for the team. In fact, they had to win in spite of their goaltenders more often than not.

 

[Mystifo]

I think we'd be better with Ron Wilson to be honest. At least his teams didn't get doubled up in shots on a regular basis and he also didn't have the luxury of relying on his goaltenders to win games for the team. In fact, they had to win in spite of their goaltenders more often than not.

No we just got doubled up on the scoreboard.... Seriously I want no part in a Wilson type coach.

 

[ConnorTO]

what if i told you that you need defense in order to win

 

[TMLegend]

No we just got doubled up on the scoreboard.... Seriously I want no part in a Wilson type coach.

That's to be expected when your goaltenders can barely post .900SV%.

 

[TMLegend]

what if i told you that you need defense in order to win

And what if I told you the best defense is playing in the other teams end?

 

[Mikeyg]

There is just no pleasing you people.... I mean not too long ago myself included we were asking to axe Wilson now it seems like some people are forgetting how ABYSMAL this team was under him. Let me remind you our PK was ranked 30th. We continued to finish in the bottom half of the league and our goaltenders were hung out to dry every night.

this years pk is getting pretty close to 30 right now

 

[Cor]

this years pk is getting pretty close to 30 right now

7/8 tonight bumped us up. Haven't checked how much

 

[hockeyes]

Wilson's mistake was not having two goalies that could regularly make 48 of 50 saves a night. Carlyle is just too much of a tactician, he could tell this would be a winning strategy.

 

[bonjovi0308]

Those who preferred Wilson over Carlye are pathetic. He had ruined Luke Schenn, Beachman, and almost ruined Kadri. Enough said.

 

[Daisy Jane]

7/8 tonight bumped us up. Haven't checked how much

weren't we 6 of 8?
(we let in two goals).

 

[p.l.f.]

Randy brought the shot blockers in his suitcase and that's helped
And they collapse in front of their net well to keep it to the outside
But they don't do a very good job of getting it out

Ron Wilson's game was one dimensional
Keep your feet moving!"
Outscore your mistakes, keep pressing offensively

Both seem flawed

 

[Mystifo]

That's to be expected when your goaltenders can barely post .900SV%.

But how much of that was because of a poor system for goalies?



Don't get me wrong I am not saying Carlyle is perfect because quite frankly I hate his get a 3 goal lead and sit back but I want no part in a run and gun style.

 

[diceman934]

Where is Wilson coaching now.....oh no where....that should be enough for anyone to understand the difference.

One coaches teams that make the playoffs, the other not!

 

[leafstilldeath*]

2 wrongs don't make a right. Wilson and Carlyle both are morons

 

[Alerion]

Wilson had very little to work with while he was coach. I'm not saying I'd rather him but his record with the current roster would be far better than what he posted with the likes of Lebda and Toskala.

 

[MiniMoose]

I feel like Peter Laviolette would be perfect

 

[Mowerman]

That's to be expected when your goaltenders can barely post .900SV%.

Which is to be expected when your goaltenders consistently face odd man rushes and high quality scoring chances. Which is to be expected when you play Ron Wilson hockey.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

Fighting on the left, we have Ron "Hanta Yo" Wilson. With a record of 648-561-101, and employing the run-and-gun system, he'll look to pepper his opponent with low percentage chance pot shots hoping one sneaks in. His weapons will be his early extension and long-time friend Burke. On the right we have Randy "Norris Winner" Carlyle. With a record of 305-208-69, he'll employ the rope-a-dope system, looking to go onto the defensive and hit back whenever his opponent is caught off guard. His weapons will be the enforcers he plays in every single ****** game. Let's get ready to rumble!!!!!!!!!

 

[Penalty Kill Icing*]

This is like choosing between Raycroft and Toskala.

 

[cajun]

You people are hilarious. at what point did I say I preferred wilson over Carlyle.I simply pointed out that each coach's system didn't work with the personnel they have or had to work with.Carlyle can not win with the system he is currently employing and the personnel he has

 

[Ari91]

Expecting your players to play 'defense' when in the defensive zone isn't making a team into a defensive team.

The system isn't about collapsing in our end but that's an issue that the players seem to face often. It's an issue that Carlyle doesn't like and he attributes it to the way the players begin to react and make decisions on the ice when put in certain situations. I'm not sure anyone can say for certain what Carlyle's system is exactly because with the amount of complaints he has about the way they play, what the Leafs are currently doing isn't what he wants from them.