Value of: William Nylander (Mod warning post 165)

[ole ole]

The question is will Nylander even hit 25 pts this season? 17 in 41
That's your 7mil dollar man.

 

[Ulysses31]

i think dubas overpaid by half a mil but that contract will look like a bargain next year when he goes on a tear.

next year i would like to see leafs try some nutty like like tavares-matthews line 1 and nylander-marner line 2

 

[GoldiFox]

Past 41 games:

	GP	G	A	Pts	ES Pts	+/-	Contract
William Nylander	41	5	12	17	13	-3	$6.96 million x 6 years
Brett Pesce	41	3	16	19	18	+25	$4.02 million x 6 years

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Can Nylander overtake "defensive D" Brett Pesce for points since coming back? Pesce's zero PP time is helping Nylander but it might not be enough.

 

[Matthews34]

Only if those non-star players don't have NMC's.....oh wait they do.

Only UFA years can have a NMC so stop with your nonsense.

 

[Sky04]

Only UFA years can have a NMC so stop with your nonsense.

Yeah that 6.25m anchor is nothing to worry about, leafs will have 13m tied to 2 guys who are struggling to put up 40pt pace

 

[TheDoldrums]

Yeah that 6.25m anchor is nothing to worry about, leafs will have 13m tied to 2 guys who are struggling to put up 40pt pace

I also like to change the topic when I'm proven wrong

 

[PatrikBerglund]

I'm gonna love reading this thread in 3 years when Nylander is a ppg+ player.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I'm gonna love reading this thread in 3 years when Nylander is a ppg+ player.

sneak preview

Mitch Marner is on pace for 9 goals.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Meh, Nylander rode Matthews' coattails en route to a bloated contract.

I feel like Kapanen's proven more, in less time than what we've seen from Nylander.

I wonder if Dubas will acknowledge this in their RFA contract talks. I mean we already know Marner's going to make significantly more than Nylander, at least he certainly deserves to based on the year he's had.

 

[DFF]

Past 41 games:

	GP	G	A	Pts	ES Pts	+/-
William Nylander	41	5	12	17	13	-3
Brett Pesce	41	3	16	19	18	+25

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Can Nylander overtake "defensive D" Brett Pesce for points since coming back? Pesce's zero PP time is helping Nylander but it might not be enough.

I heard nylander is now a 2way forward, in the Bob gainey mold

Points don't matter anymore.

 

[genk]

Meh, Nylander rode Matthews' coattails en route to a bloated contract.

I feel like Kapanen's proven more, in less time than what we've seen from Nylander.

I wonder if Dubas will acknowledge this in their RFA contract talks. I mean we already know Marner's going to make significantly more than Nylander, at least he certainly deserves to based on the year he's had.

Walking and talking example of recency bias. Nylander putting up consecutive 60 pt seasons compared to Kapanen who may not even achieve 50.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Past 41 games:

	GP	G	A	Pts	ES Pts	+/-
William Nylander	41	5	12	17	13	-3
Brett Pesce	41	3	16	19	18	+25

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Can Nylander overtake "defensive D" Brett Pesce for points since coming back? Pesce's zero PP time is helping Nylander but it might not be enough.

That chart says it all.

Too bad you didn't include both player's contracts.

 

[Gm0ney]

Doesn't matter because he's already becoming untouchable in the latter stages of this season.

Yes, it would be a bad move to trade him just because...but if they wanted to, he wouldn't be at all difficult to move.

 

[Menzinger]

I'm gonna love reading this thread in 3 years when Nylander is a ppg+ player.

It will get bumped, and the people taking shots at the guy will then try and complain about how Leafs fans are being mean to them.

How these threads always go

 

[Space Coyote]

sneak preview

Mitch Marner is on pace for 9 goals.

How about this one?

Mitch Marner the next Yakupov?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

The question is will Nylander even hit 25 pts this season? 17 in 41
That's your 7mil dollar man.

Just over a year ago you were convinced Marner was a 4th liner and comparing him to Yakupov. I'd bet less than a year from now you will look equally as silly as you did on that one. Enjoy your small victories while you can.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Wonder if he is giving Matthews 3M per year for increasing his value by at least that. Carried by Matthews both years to 60 points. Now look at him without Matthews. Pulled wool over a bad GM's eyes, not only did he get overpaid, he set the market to overpay Matthews and Marner.

Dubas is Chia level bad so far. As a fan this is very sad. Could have traded him for D help before the signing, now we have another no show softy in the playoff's instead of someone who can help against the Bruins.

Sad!

Always fun to hear from the Leafs (*ahem*) number one fan.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Always fun to hear from the Leafs (*ahem*) number one fan.

Hey dan

 

[jaric1862]

It is crucial that Nylander clicks with Matthews before the playoffs

 

[ole ole]

Just over a year ago you were convinced Marner was a 4th liner and comparing him to Yakupov. I'd bet less than a year from now you will look equally as silly as you did on that one. Enjoy your small victories while you can.

Last yr you said that Matthews was better than McDavid and Gretzky.
You said Matthews would get 50 in 50 this season easily. Don't see it happening.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Always fun to hear from the Leafs (*ahem*) number one fan.

Sorry I do not blindly agree with most stuff the Gm of the Oilers and Leafs did. I have been a very vocal opponent of pretty much everything Chia did and so far most everything Dubas has done.

You can still be a fan, but objective and not a complete homer.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Sorry I do not blindly agree with most stuff the Gm of the Oilers and Leafs did. I have been a very vocal opponent of pretty much everything Chia did and so far most everything Dubas has done.

You can still be a fan, but objective and not a complete homer.

In a season where they are still on pace to break the record for points you have not defended/supported any Leaf who was being piled on by haters. Instead you piled on as well this is not being objective.
You're no Leafs fan, you're an angry Oilers fan which I can totally understand.
Watching them mismanaged to the point that they will miss the playoffs a third time with McDavid and with no improvement in sight must be extraordinarily galling for the fan base.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

In a season where they are still on pace to break the record for points you have not defended/supported any Leaf who was being piled on by haters. Instead you piled on as well this is not being objective.
You're no Leafs fan, you're an angry Oilers fan which I can totally understand.
Watching them mismanaged to the point that they will miss the playoffs a third time with McDavid and with no improvement in sight must be extraordinarily galling for the fan base.

Incorrect. Marner is my favorite player in the NHL. Andersen is my MVP for this year. Not angry at all, just wish we had a good gm for the Leafs as I can see how these contracts are going to screw up.
Anger is not good for you son.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Incorrect. Marner is my favorite player in the NHL. Andersen is my MVP for this year. Not angry at all, just wish we had a good gm for the Leafs as I can see how these contracts are going to screw up.
Anger is not good for you son.

Huh...It's strange then that I have seen a post where you judged that Marner + Matthews + Nylander weren't worth McDavid. Which doesn't sound unbiased or objective to me.
Your posts usually come across as snide and angry to me but if that's not the case then please accept my apology.
I agree "anger isn't good for you son".

 

[Boondock]

As a hockey fan first and an anti-Leafer second, I'm amazed by the venom spewed out regarding Nylander. I could see people complaining about his personality or that he held out and then forced the Leafs hand into signing him for more than some thought he should get. But Nylander is unquestionably talented and a fantastic overall player. I would be interested to hear the same people next season when Nylander is pushing for pt/gm totals.

Its great to have an opinion, its even better if its based on knowledge and common sense.