Will scoring remain high?

[Sugi21]

Only one thing is certain. People will complain about goalie equipment regardless of scoring.

Yup the league will revert back to no goalie masks and the standup style of goaltending and people will still want more goals lol

 

[Sugi21]

Why do you want scoring to increase? I'd rather watch a good allround game. Higher scoring usually means sloppy hockey.

My thoughts exactly!!! I could never see why people want a billion goals scored in a game? Not only is it sloppy hockey but it’s not a fun game to watch I prefer the close low scoring playoff style hockey not that all star game crap!!! Different strokes for different folks I guess

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

Why do you want scoring to increase? I'd rather watch a good allround game. Higher scoring usually means sloppy hockey.

NHL hockey wasn't sloppy last season with an increase in scoring so I don't inow what you're talking about

 

[Lacaar]

All depends on how the refs are told/decide to manage the game. Really has nothing to do with the on ice product or players

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

This preseason has actually had much more scoring than the previous 2 preseasons. ~6.35 goals per regulation through 96 preseason games so far. ~5.6 goals/regulation in the 2017 preseason in 108 games, ~4.6 goals/regulation in the 2016 preseason in 105 games.

Yeah I totally threw off my whole comment by accidentally saying no when I meant to type yes.

The comment makes a hell of a lot more sense by replacing yes instead of no also. I’m clumsy.

 

[pcruz]

Let's pump them brakes Leafs fans, they scored 6 against a less than full bottom 5 DRW team in exhibition play. Getting Tavares doesn't add 40% more offense to your team, get real!

You’re right, but adding Tavares in the lineup and giving their star player more playing time and significantly more power play time will help get there.

Also, seeing as the defense is not actually any better (it’s one year older yes, but comprised of the same players including whatever remains of Ron Hainsey possibly playing 80% of the penalty kill again), they will most likely give up more goals as well.

Maybe the other teams in the league will realize that coaches having heart palpitations during the game and Gabby’s face permanently crimson is more entertaining than the Devils of yore, Wild of a few years back and all other defensive/trapping systems teams.

Let’s watch basketball games on ice. 7-6 for everyone. I’d enjoy that tremendously.

 

[maacoshark]

NHL hockey wasn't sloppy last season with an increase in scoring so I don't inow what you're talking about

Yes it was sloppy. The majority of goals are scored because of a mistake. Turnover, poor decision defensively, a bad pinch,laziness on backchecking or weak goaltending. Even giving up a pp goal can be considered sloppy because most penalties are from sloppy plays.

 

[pabst blue ribbon]

Yes it was sloppy. The majority of goals are scored because of a mistake. Turnover, poor decision defensively, a bad pinch,laziness on backchecking or weak goaltending. Even giving up a pp goal can be considered sloppy because most penalties are from sloppy plays.

It wasn't sloppy at all, and I don't think you have any way of actually proving it.

 

[maacoshark]

It wasn't sloppy at all, and I don't think you have any way of actually proving it.

I watched a lot of hockey. And yes the hockey was sloppy. Your definition of sloppy must be different. I guess your standards arent as high.

 

[bukwas]

I could see totals being maintained or possibly increasing.
The shift from size to a skill preference at the draft should continue to have a positive offensive impact.

 

[Bedards Dad]

You’re right, but adding Tavares in the lineup and giving their star player more playing time and significantly more power play time will help get there.

Also, seeing as the defense is not actually any better (it’s one year older yes, but comprised of the same players including whatever remains of Ron Hainsey possibly playing 80% of the penalty kill again), they will most likely give up more goals as well.

Maybe the other teams in the league will realize that coaches having heart palpitations during the game and Gabby’s face permanently crimson is more entertaining than the Devils of yore, Wild of a few years back and all other defensive/trapping systems teams.

Let’s watch basketball games on ice. 7-6 for everyone. I’d enjoy that tremendously.

Leafs only had 6 against 3 times, all before Nov 5th when andersen was shoit.

 

[Blade Runner]

Hopefully not.

 

[Treb]

I watched a lot of hockey. And yes the hockey was sloppy. Your definition of sloppy must be different. I guess your standards arent as high.

So there is no such thing as a non-sloppy goal in hockey?

100% of goals are scored due to a mistake.

 

[puckpilot]

If legalization of Mary Jane keeps happening, scoring will remain sky high.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

So there is no such thing as a non-sloppy goal in hockey?

100% of goals are scored due to a mistake.

but then arent most sports plays scored cause of mistakes then?
I think sometimes you just get beat, "mistakes' aren't always apart of the equation.

Anyways i think scoring will be similar to last year maybe a tick lower imo.

 

[maacoshark]

So there is no such thing as a non-sloppy goal in hockey?

100% of goals are scored due to a mistake.

There are some goals that aren't really due to a mistake. But most goals are because of a sloppy play. Obviously sub par play is good enough for you. Well it isn't for me. I dont want to see each team scoring 5 or 6 goals a game because of a lack of discipline.

 

[Treb]

There are some goals that aren't really due to a mistake. But most goals are because of a sloppy play. Obviously sub par play is good enough for you. Well it isn't for me. I dont want to see each team scoring 5 or 6 goals a game because of a lack of discipline.

You're advocating for 0-0 tie if you want sloppy play free hockey. Even a SO goal is a mistake on the goalie part since there is no such thing as a unstoppable shot.

I also don't want 10-12 goals game, but you're asking for the players to do a choreography.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I think it will increase

 

[maacoshark]

You're advocating for 0-0 tie if you want sloppy play free hockey. Even a SO goal is a mistake on the goalie part since there is no such thing as a unstoppable shot.

I also don't want 10-12 goals game, but you're asking for the players to do a choreography.

Mistakes are going to happen. No one is perfect. But if players play a disciplined game the mistakes will be limited. I can handle a player getting beat one on one on occasion. What bugs me is mental mistakes and lazy play defensively. If a team plays a fundamentally sound game there is no reason to give up a lot of goals. And I'm not talking about just sitting back and playing defensive hockey. I actually prefer teams forechecking hard to keep the puck in the offensive zone. I also prefer seeing a team cycle the puck well.

 

[MNNumbers]

Mistakes are going to happen. No one is perfect. But if players play a disciplined game the mistakes will be limited. I can handle a player getting beat one on one on occasion. What bugs me is mental mistakes and lazy play defensively. If a team plays a fundamentally sound game there is no reason to give up a lot of goals. And I'm not talking about just sitting back and playing defensive hockey. I actually prefer teams forechecking hard to keep the puck in the offensive zone. I also prefer seeing a team cycle the puck well.

My impression is that the increase in goals last year was due to tighter enforcement of slashing. If that is true, then the sloppiness factor was the same both seasons, except that the sloppiness was punished more last year.

Do you disagree?

 

[Ms Maggie]

Whatever league scoring average is per game, in the 82 games involving the Leafs, it'll be 30-40% higher.

It might average 7-5 per game for those 82. Toronto seems like they can score at will and can't seem to have discovered defense as of yet.


A 0-0 game will be oh so rare.

Score at will? Did I miss something?!?

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

Only one thing is certain. People will complain about goalie equipment regardless of scoring.

not enough people

 

[Kamiccolo]

Remember when Toronto had a full 2-minute 5-on-3 last night and didn't get a single shot on goal? Even during the PP they were talking about how Toronto would score at least 300 goals on the season and at least 80 PP goals. Yikes, chill tfo. It's a long season

- Toronto scoring a bunch of PP goals in pre-season means nothing

- Them not scoring on a 5-3 in pre-season means they are overrated and not that improved

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Tavares won't improve every facet of the team sure but the PP is 100% without a doubt improved. They traded Bozak and JVR for Tavares and Matthews on the #1 unit. That is a MASSIVE talent upgrade. Very realistically they can be the top PP in the league, especially when most teams don't have a #1 that good and the #2 unit is as good as many teams first unit (Marleau, Nylander, etc on it).

 

[SharksCyclops]

- Toronto scoring a bunch of PP goals in pre-season means nothing

- Them not scoring on a 5-3 in pre-season means they are overrated and not that improved

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Tavares won't improve every facet of the team sure but the PP is 100% without a doubt improved. They traded Bozak and JVR for Tavares and Matthews on the #1 unit. That is a MASSIVE talent upgrade. Very realistically they can be the top PP in the league, especially when most teams don't have a #1 that good and the #2 unit is as good as many teams first unit (Marleau, Nylander, etc on it).

I really don't think you can say the preseason means nothing and then throw a hypothetical as your means of an argument.

They may be as good as a lot of people are touting, but they could also be decent and perform similar to other top teams in the league. We will have to see, but I believe in parity and the ability of teams to perform well on the PK, as well as underwhelm on a PP.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Slight decrease. My guess is the avg goals per game will be 5.8.