Will Dion Phaneuf join the Flames for the playoffs?

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  1. HabLover

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    His Red Deer Rebels could be eliminated tomorrow night and therefore making Mr. Phaneuf available to the Flames. Is there any chance of him playing in a playoff game?? Would he be a liability?

    What are the chances of Phaneuf playing for Team Canada at next year's World Juniors? Is there any chance he won't make the big club next season?
     
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    Well, he got OWNED by Ryan Getzlaff on a Hitmen goal last night. Really looked like a goat.

    He's also pointless so far in the playoffs as well.

    He has a fair ways to go in his development if you ask me.
     
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    Why test out a kid that age in the playoffs?

    Too big of a stage to be making tryouts on.
     
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    I really doubt it, but I would expect him to be the 7th D-man at the start of the year in Calgary next year. I really like the sounds of a Lydman-Phaneuf pairing :yo:
     
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    Maybe not the playoffs, but if Red Deer is knocked out and it's clear by Friday that the Flames aren't moving from that #6 spot, it'd make sense to give him the last couple of regular season games and rest one of the top six.
     
  6. Phanuthier*

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    Sounds like a bust to me!!! :banghead:

    In response to HBW, Iginla made his debut in the playoffs.

    And in respose to the origanal, no I don't think he will, because Sutter will likely want to try signing him under the new CBA rules, if that is how they propose it. (Yes yes I know he was drafted under the current CBA, but who knows?)
     
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    He'd be better served as a top D-man in the AHL logging tons of minutes against better competition than he sees now, instead of sitting as a 7th D-man, IMHO.
     
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    Did I say he was a bust?

    I only said he needs some development. You can't rush defensemen through the fast-track route as a rule. They take time. Second only to goaltenders in the overall scheme of things.
     
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    Did I say you said he was a bust?
     
  10. Bicycle Repairman

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    You did quote me and follow up with the "Bust" bomb in the first sentence of your reply, so yes, it does seem you were referring to me.
     
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    I'd be surprised. Considering that a) Sutter will want him playing big minutes wherever the Flames farm happens to be next season, and b) He'll be earning north of $1 million per...I doubt Sutter wants him playing a fringe role.

    However, I think by the end of next season he could have the 4th/5th spot in Calgary, especially if Sutter moves one of Gauthier or Lydman (At this point, I'd bet on Lydman, as good as he has been, since his salary is jumping up quite a bit).

    I'd look for a Phaneuf/Warrener pairing before Phaneuf/Lydman, simply because the former would do a lot better job of mentoring, covering for his mistakes, etc.
     
  12. Phanuthier*

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    Once again, did I say you said he was a bust?

    Doesn't appear so.
     
  13. Bicycle Repairman

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    Yes you did. Nyah nyah nyah.
     
  14. Phanuthier*

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    Thank you, Mr Moderator.
     
  15. Bicycle Repairman

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    Well you did belabour an extrapolated point, hence my response.

    Getting back to hockey issues, it seems we are in agreement over the deportment of one young Mr. Phaneuf. No?
     
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    Now Ladies, try to get along.

    By the way bicycle repairman...Nice photo. The picture that keeps on giving.
     
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    No, but you strongly implied it. All this immature posturing is really ridiculous.
     
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    Hope so :innocent:
     
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    I don't think for one second that Sutter would try to sign Phaneuf for the playoffs. Although I obviously don't know what Sutter is thinking, it wouldn't really make much sense to put a rookie defenseman out on the ice for the playoffs when the Flames defense has performed well all season long.
     
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    If the NHL season starts on time I don't think he'll be going back to junior.
     
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    I don't think Phaneuf will start with the Flames either though. I would think that with a guy who is not, in my opinion, NHL ready yet, it makes more sense for him to play 25 minutes a game in the AHL than 25 minutes a game in junior or 10 minutes a game in the NHL.
     
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    He looked somewhat tired to me. That doesn't really speak at all to his development however. Can't judge too much on one game as you appear to be doing. You don't appear to be taking into account his season and his performance in the World Juniors. Very shortsighted and judgemental view you've chosen to take on this subject.
     
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    Phaneuf is not eligible for the AHL next season. If you want him in the AHL you are talking two years down the line. I don't see that happening.

    Much like Regehr and Morris I tend to think he'll step in sooner rather than later. I think Sutter may look at moving Gauthier during the offseason to create room for players like Phaneuf and Commodore.
     
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    As a rule? You can't use rules for these things as each prospect is a different case. Jay Bo, Klesla and Pitkanen don't seemed to be ruined by stepping in before age 20. And if you want some Flames examples you need look no further than Regehr and Morris who both stepped in at age 19. Both of them seem to have turned out quite well.

    Your average defensemen probably does step in later than your average forward, I would agree with you there. However Phaneuf is FAR from being an average defensemen prospect. Prospects of his standing often step in earlier than your average player.
     
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    I agree for sure, I doubt he goes back to the Dub, but he can't play in the A so that leaves him in the NHL, I could see Ference or Gauthier getting traded in the offseason, or even Lydman in an extreme case. My guess is one of this years top six is traded and Phaneuf and Commodore make the team next year, that leaves Montador, Wallin and Ramholt (who can play in the A next year I believe) to play in Lowell.
     
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